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Using air conditioners as air source heat pumps
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michaels said:Are there pluses and minuses to using a split system rather than two single units?If I understand... 1 external box.. 2 distribution inside, more powerful external box.... 3-4 internal.2 single units (i think) would require 2 external units...3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
17 Yingli 235 panels
Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
Sunny Webox
Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.
13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...
20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed1 -
A split system feeding two internal units may be more expensive, but possibly gets cheaper if feeding 3+.michaels said:Are there pluses and minuses to using a split system rather than two single units?
A split system may need a dedicated power supply, rather than just plugging it into a socket. [But two separate units could also be an issue if they are to be plugged into the same ring main. Don't ask me why, I don't know.]
A split system will mean less servicing.
Probably lots more +'s & -'sMart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 28kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.
For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.2 -
I agree 2 external boxes but it might still be cheaper and easier to install and give you more flexibility as Martin saysmickyduck55 said:michaels said:Are there pluses and minuses to using a split system rather than two single units?If I understand... 1 external box.. 2 distribution inside, more powerful external box.... 3-4 internal.2 single units (i think) would require 2 external units...I think....0 -
michaels said:
I agree 2 external boxes but it might still be cheaper and easier to install and give you more flexibility as Martin saysmickyduck55 said:michaels said:Are there pluses and minuses to using a split system rather than two single units?If I understand... 1 external box.. 2 distribution inside, more powerful external box.... 3-4 internal.2 single units (i think) would require 2 external units...
I thought it would be more expensive with two external boxes.. well you live and learn
3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
17 Yingli 235 panels
Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
Sunny Webox
Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.
13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...
20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed0 -
Same here, you'd assume cheaper, but you may incur additional leccy install costs (for the 'special' wiring) additional piping costs, as one of the indoor units will presumably be a bit further away, and the split systems do seem to have a bit of a cost jump v's a simple outdoor unit.mickyduck55 said:michaels said:
I agree 2 external boxes but it might still be cheaper and easier to install and give you more flexibility as Martin saysmickyduck55 said:michaels said:Are there pluses and minuses to using a split system rather than two single units?If I understand... 1 external box.. 2 distribution inside, more powerful external box.... 3-4 internal.2 single units (i think) would require 2 external units...
I thought it would be more expensive with two external boxes.. well you live and learnMart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 28kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.
For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.0 -
Installed today.. bring on the summerVery pleased neat and tidy team.. even managed to get a system into my bedroom where there was no loft access (they had to take a concrete block out of the wall)
3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
17 Yingli 235 panels
Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
Sunny Webox
Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.
13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...
20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed6 -
How are you finding it for heating?mickyduck55 said:Installed today.. bring on the summerVery pleased neat and tidy team.. even managed to get a system into my bedroom where there was no loft access (they had to take a concrete block out of the wall)
East coast, lat 51.97. 8.26kw SSE, 23° pitch + 0.59kw WSW vertical. Nissan Leaf plus Zappi charger and 2 x ASHP's. Givenergy 8.2 & 9.5 kWh batts, 2 x 3 kW ac inverters. Indra V2H . CoCharger Host, Interest in Ripple Energy & Abundance.0 -
Micky, would you mind posting some specs/prices and even pics? I'm very interested in this sort of heating.mickyduck55 said:Installed today.. bring on the summerVery pleased neat and tidy team.. even managed to get a system into my bedroom where there was no loft access (they had to take a concrete block out of the wall)1 -
Only had it on for a few mins.. been quite warm today so just the usual GCH. It is certainly "instant" heat so it takes the chill of the room very quickly. Actually have a few kW of electricity spare this evening as batteries fully charged this afternoon so may run it for a short timeCoastalwatch said:
How are you finding it for heating?mickyduck55 said:Installed today.. bring on the summerVery pleased neat and tidy team.. even managed to get a system into my bedroom where there was no loft access (they had to take a concrete block out of the wall)

3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
17 Yingli 235 panels
Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
Sunny Webox
Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.
13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...
20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed4 -
shinytop said:
Micky, would you mind posting some specs/prices and even pics? I'm very interested in this sort of heating.mickyduck55 said:Installed today.. bring on the summerVery pleased neat and tidy team.. even managed to get a system into my bedroom where there was no loft access (they had to take a concrete block out of the wall)I think it is quite neat, there is an extension and solid wall where the brickwork changes colour to the left of the pipes going into the loft so they had to go into the loft and through an existing vent and a concrete block wall to connect the bedroom unit.. the downstairs unit feed goes into my garage then directly through the wall into the living room unit. The power which is a single 13 amp plug runs alongside my solar power cables so "unseen".These are the internal units installed just under 3K... I could not get them to agree that 5% VAT was allowed
3.995kWP SSW facing. Commissioned 7 July 2011. 24 degree pitch (£3.36 /W).
17 Yingli 235 panels
Sunnyboy 4000TL inverter
Sunny Webox
Solar Immersion installed May 2013, after two Solar Immersion lasting just over the guarantee period replaced with Solic 200... no problems since.
13 Feb 2020 LUX AC 3600 and 3 X Pylon Tech 3.5 kW batteries added...
20 January 2024 Daikin ASHP installed5
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