FTTP-On Demand?

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  • edited 12 December 2020 at 12:59AM
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    edited 12 December 2020 at 12:59AM
    If someone ( usually a business)  requested a leased line and there was an NGA aggregation node close by , the leased line may use a fibre from the ‘exchange’ to the NGA aggregation node , fibre then provided from it to the customer address, this could be cheaper than if the circuit was delivered from a ‘regular’ leased line ‘node’ that was further away, so leased lines potentially get to use NGA ‘network’ if it is suitable , but it doesn’t work the other way around, if FTTPod was ordered, it has to be delivered from an NGA Agg node , even if a regular leased line node was close by, the FTTPod circuit couldn’t be delivered from it....leased lines are point to point, FTTPod , like native FTTP is a ‘shared’ passive optical network, using splitters, so if the only new fibre in the area was the leased line, there is no reason why a new FTTPod ‘quote’ would be different from the one previously supplied, the only differences potentially, if there were civils required ( box building , duct laying etc ) and the rate paid to the contractor has changed, but as with most things the price tends to go up, so the same scheme , two years later is likely to cost more, not less

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    BT just sent me their current deals on full fibre to the premesis  with BT, Its now getting even more affordable ‌Shocked‌ but not quite as cheap, fast or as long as Talk Talk

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    GValue said:
    BT just sent me their current deals on full fibre to the premesis  with BT, Its now getting even more affordable ‌Shocked‌ but not quite as cheap, fast or as long as Talk Talk
    But the 16K installation cost is rather more of a consideration than the monthly cost!
  • edited 14 December 2020 at 8:29PM
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    edited 14 December 2020 at 8:29PM
    A little pointless providing the prices for native FTTP when the thread is about FTTPod, and part of a FTTPod  ‘deal’ is a minimum period with whatever ISP arranges the service and neither TT or BT Consumer  offer FTTPod,  only after the initial term is served can the consumer move provider and take advantage of these type of prices.
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    iniltous said:
    A little pointless providing the prices for native FTTP when the thread is about FTTPod, and part of a FTTPod  ‘deal’ is a minimum period with whatever ISP arranges the service and neither TT or BT Consumer  offer FTTPod,  only after the initial term is served can the consumer move provider and take advantage of these type of prices.
    I would think that you'd be hard pushed to get onto a "normal" FTTP contract if you've got a FTTPod installation. Up to the middle of this year it wasn't even everso easy to change existing FTTP suppliers - I know,  I tried.

    FTTPod is equivalent to an optical leased line and therefore not provisioned in the same way as a normal FTTP installation so once installed you could be stuck with it unless or until FTTP became generally available in your area and the processes were in place to effect a swap
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  • edited 15 December 2020 at 7:47PM
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    edited 15 December 2020 at 7:47PM
    iniltous said:
    A little pointless providing the prices for native FTTP when the thread is about FTTPod, and part of a FTTPod  ‘deal’ is a minimum period with whatever ISP arranges the service and neither TT or BT Consumer  offer FTTPod,  only after the initial term is served can the consumer move provider and take advantage of these type of prices.
    I would think that you'd be hard pushed to get onto a "normal" FTTP contract if you've got a FTTPod installation. Up to the middle of this year it wasn't even everso easy to change existing FTTP suppliers - I know,  I tried.

    FTTPod is equivalent to an optical leased line and therefore not provisioned in the same way as a normal FTTP installation so once installed you could be stuck with it unless or until FTTP became generally available in your area and the processes were in place to effect a swap
    Nope, FTTPoD is treated exactly the same as native FTTP once its installed. The Openreach/BT Wholesale checker lists any property with FTTPOD as 'FTTP WBC' post installation.

     I had FTTPoD installed in 2017 with a 4 port ONT installed and  I was on 36 month contract. 6 months later i had another FTTP line go live (port 2), paying only native FTTP prices. Earlier this year i changed from my original FTTPoD service to BT Business FTTP on Port 1, again the migration went smoothly.

    If you personally have had issues migrating between FTTP providers then this will be unique to your line, eg Openreach database errors. Its certainly not a problem affecting FTTP (or FTTPoD) users en-masse, as my successful migrations on FTTPoD prove.

    As for provisioning, FTTPoD is installed in exactly in the same way as native FTTP, but on a much smaller scale. The fibre to my home comes from the same fibre aggregation which also serves 2 FTTC cabinets in my area and which also provides native FTTP for a new build housing estate. FTTP or FTTPoD have nothing to do with leased lines.
  • edited 15 December 2020 at 8:06PM
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    edited 15 December 2020 at 8:06PM
    Worth noting ,the property’s that can get FTTP curtesy of someone stumping up £££’s to get FTTPod  ( those that can be served from the CBT the FTTPod customer paid to get installed ) can get native FTTP ( and therefore native FTTP prices ), OR give a reduction on the FTTPod price for each property that can benefit from this  , even if they don’t take up FTTP once it becomes available 
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