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dogshome said:

The teen to 30 year olds who caused tier 2 by whooping it up after Tier1 ended, were probably only slightly ill if they caught Covid - Though they may have killed their Parents/Grandparents after staggering home

Yes, we are elderly and I was a boy in WW11, but even then we went to the shelter if the air raid was only dropping incendiary bombs instead of High Explosives and Land Mines

Good grief, elderly person blaming younger people for something, does it get any more cliched than that?
Where did you get this 'caused tier 2' from? Let me guess, the Daily Mail or Daily Express? 

ToxicWomble

jon81uk said:

Basically though what I meant was don't get so hung up on cleaning that you then forget about distancing and keeping away from people who don't have a mask on.

Good philosophy - control what you can and let all the others do what they want

badmemory

I am convinced that a lot of the instore differences are down to the store manager.  My local Tescos no longer has announcements about distancing etc** & we are tier 3.  No-one is asking people to mask up/move their mask to OVER their nose.  Local Aldi & Home Bargains no problem.  Timing though of entering all these shops is important.  Round here 3pm is the optimum, when they are all busy picking up kids from school.  This isn't just the parents but grandparents too.

I believe that calling it social distancing was a big mistake & they should have gone for the Guardians physical distancing.  To some social distancing seems to imply no-one else exists, a bit like Maggie Thatcher's there is no such thing as society.  Whereas physical distancing just means don't come too near me.

**When I queried this I was told that one customer had challenged another customer about their "behaviour" & so they decided to remove any restriction on behaviour.  So when they tell you they are thinking of YOUR safety you would better not believe it

KatrinaWaves

mask exemptions should have had to be medically qualified and applied for in my opinion. Yes it’s a bunch of work and I get that, and I have no issues with people being medically exempt, but the issue is a lot of people are not exempt, and pretend they are. Let’s not deny there’s plenty out there (the guy refusing in the paper was one, whose FB pics were all in a work ventilator type mask)

Staff won’t try and enforce the rules because a) there are no ‘rules’ only ‘guidelines’ and b) all you have to do is lie and say you fall into one of the many exemptions and that’s it. It’s not their job to enforce the arbitrary rules of govt with the amount of wiggle room there is. 

Masks are uncomfortable and I dislike them also, especially after a prolonged period, and people are simply choosing not to
wear them because of this. 

dogshome

"Cliched opinion" !

As one of the Elderly, I have grandchilden of the ages of those who were whooping up unmasked in crowds, and harking back to my own experiences at that age, I feel very sorry for them.

And as for the Daily Mail & Express, I subscribe to the Telegraph

elsien

The face covering wearers with their noses sticking out is definitely on the increase in all the stores I go in. For the sake of balance, this does include people of all ages.
The stores with safety marshals or whatever silly name they are giving themselves do nothing to challenge this, not the big 5 or the discounters. 
I’d quite like to see a campaign saying wear it properly or just don’t bother. Gives people a false sense of security with regards to maintaining a sensible distance.  

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elsien said:

The face covering wearers with their noses sticking out is definitely on the increase in all the stores I go in. For the sake of balance, this does include people of all ages.
The stores with safety marshals or whatever silly name they are giving themselves do nothing to challenge this, not the big 5 or the discounters. 
I’d quite like to see a campaign saying wear it properly or just don’t bother. Gives people a false sense of security with regards to maintaining a sensible distance.  

I wish I could thank that post more than just once.
I have no problem with folk that don't wear a mask, they obviously have a reason but the mask at half mast really bothers me.

Spank

elsien said:

The face covering wearers with their noses sticking out is definitely on the increase in all the stores I go in. For the sake of balance, this does include people of all ages.
The stores with safety marshals or whatever silly name they are giving themselves do nothing to challenge this, not the big 5 or the discounters. 
I’d quite like to see a campaign saying wear it properly or just don’t bother. Gives people a false sense of security with regards to maintaining a sensible distance.  

I remember when the AIDS crisis was the big thing in the 80's and there was a programme on how to protect yourselves with demonstrations of putting on condoms. Maybe the government should have run similar things on how to wear masks.

I also think they should have bought masks and given them to the people who couldn't afford them

DiddyDavies

duncanthedog said:

I wish I could thank that post more than just once.
I have no problem with folk that don't wear a mask, they obviously have a reason but the mask at half mast really bothers me.

Some of the people not wearing a mask may have a reason but certainly not all of them.
In my local Tesco last Saturday, there was a group of 6 people who looked about 18 to 20 years old and they were obviously stocking up for a party as all of them had large multipacks of beer.
Of the 6, not one was wearing any sort of mask or face covering.

jon81uk

DiddyDavies said:

duncanthedog said:

I wish I could thank that post more than just once.
I have no problem with folk that don't wear a mask, they obviously have a reason but the mask at half mast really bothers me.

Some of the people not wearing a mask may have a reason but certainly not all of them.
In my local Tesco last Saturday, there was a group of 6 people who looked about 18 to 20 years old and they were obviously stocking up for a party as all of them had large multipacks of beer.
Of the 6, not one was wearing any sort of mask or face covering.

This is the sort of thing the store security really should be challenging. Just asking them to wear a mask or no entry would help. If someone is genuinely exempt they should be thankful that others are being challenged to keep them safer.