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Has COVID killed face recognition

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  • Timalay
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    Funny thing with my OnePlus Nord.  As I'm a school cleaner, I have to wear a mask when the children are there, and I also wear gloves.  So the face unlock, and the fingerprint scanner won't work.
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 29 November 2020 at 11:53AM
    kah22 said:

    My faithful 6s has been through the wars on more than one occasion and now she’s been retired from active service so come the Apple event this weekend I will be buying a new  iPhone 11 but wondered to myself is ‘face recognition dead in the water’ now we are in the new normal!

    Anyway I hadn’t thought much about face recognition and how it works until a few days back when doing some final checking. Then it struck me; wearing a mask anytime I go out or go shopping makes face recognition almost impossible !  OK perhaps I’m a bit paranoid but if I have to open my phone and enter my PIN number does that not decrease the level of security offered. Is it a matter of more is less during these trying times !  I exaggerate the issue to make a point 

    So I’m wondering what those bright young men and women over there in Cupertino, California, are going to do about it. Will we see a return to finger ID in some form or another, will we see a virtual finger ID sent to the phones via software updates.  Maybe instead of reading our faces  they’ll read our hands like in Mission Impossible 😎. I’m sure Apple have some very talented software engineers working on the problem right now

    Perhaps if I hadn’t been as careless with my 6s I’d still hang on to her until the finger scan returns as I’m sure it will.


    Kevin

    It won’t have killed it. 

    Unsure though if Apple will bring Touch ID into the power button like they did with the new iPad Air or wait until they are happy with Touch ID technology built into the screen.

    ideally what you want in the future is once you pick up your phone it will unlock immediately regardless of orientation, how your hand is holding it and if your facing it directly but with all the high level of security still present from unauthorised use. 
  • mrochester
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    kah22 said:

    My faithful 6s has been through the wars on more than one occasion and now she’s been retired from active service so come the Apple event this weekend I will be buying a new  iPhone 11 but wondered to myself is ‘face recognition dead in the water’ now we are in the new normal!

    Anyway I hadn’t thought much about face recognition and how it works until a few days back when doing some final checking. Then it struck me; wearing a mask anytime I go out or go shopping makes face recognition almost impossible !  OK perhaps I’m a bit paranoid but if I have to open my phone and enter my PIN number does that not decrease the level of security offered. Is it a matter of more is less during these trying times !  I exaggerate the issue to make a point 

    So I’m wondering what those bright young men and women over there in Cupertino, California, are going to do about it. Will we see a return to finger ID in some form or another, will we see a virtual finger ID sent to the phones via software updates.  Maybe instead of reading our faces  they’ll read our hands like in Mission Impossible 😎. I’m sure Apple have some very talented software engineers working on the problem right now

    Perhaps if I hadn’t been as careless with my 6s I’d still hang on to her until the finger scan returns as I’m sure it will.


    Kevin

    It won’t have killed it. 

    Unsure though if Apple will bring Touch ID into the power button like they did with the new iPad Air or wait until they are happy with Touch ID technology built into the screen.

    ideally what you want in the future is once you pick up your phone it will unlock immediately regardless of orientation, how your hand is holding it and if your facing it directly but with all the high level of security still present from unauthorised use. 
    I doubt Apple will go back to Touch ID in any device that has already received the Face ID upgrade. 
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 29 November 2020 at 7:19PM
    kah22 said:

    My faithful 6s has been through the wars on more than one occasion and now she’s been retired from active service so come the Apple event this weekend I will be buying a new  iPhone 11 but wondered to myself is ‘face recognition dead in the water’ now we are in the new normal!

    Anyway I hadn’t thought much about face recognition and how it works until a few days back when doing some final checking. Then it struck me; wearing a mask anytime I go out or go shopping makes face recognition almost impossible !  OK perhaps I’m a bit paranoid but if I have to open my phone and enter my PIN number does that not decrease the level of security offered. Is it a matter of more is less during these trying times !  I exaggerate the issue to make a point 

    So I’m wondering what those bright young men and women over there in Cupertino, California, are going to do about it. Will we see a return to finger ID in some form or another, will we see a virtual finger ID sent to the phones via software updates.  Maybe instead of reading our faces  they’ll read our hands like in Mission Impossible 😎. I’m sure Apple have some very talented software engineers working on the problem right now

    Perhaps if I hadn’t been as careless with my 6s I’d still hang on to her until the finger scan returns as I’m sure it will.


    Kevin

    It won’t have killed it. 

    Unsure though if Apple will bring Touch ID into the power button like they did with the new iPad Air or wait until they are happy with Touch ID technology built into the screen.

    ideally what you want in the future is once you pick up your phone it will unlock immediately regardless of orientation, how your hand is holding it and if your facing it directly but with all the high level of security still present from unauthorised use. 
    I doubt Apple will go back to Touch ID in any device that has already received the Face ID upgrade. 
    Hmm time will tell. 

    Face ID is not really and upgrade over Touch ID, It’s just another method of security and a solution to be able to have a screen go edge to edge on a phone. There is pros and cons of both features and having both would be nice. 

  • Timalay
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    kah22 said:

    My faithful 6s has been through the wars on more than one occasion and now she’s been retired from active service so come the Apple event this weekend I will be buying a new  iPhone 11 but wondered to myself is ‘face recognition dead in the water’ now we are in the new normal!

    Anyway I hadn’t thought much about face recognition and how it works until a few days back when doing some final checking. Then it struck me; wearing a mask anytime I go out or go shopping makes face recognition almost impossible !  OK perhaps I’m a bit paranoid but if I have to open my phone and enter my PIN number does that not decrease the level of security offered. Is it a matter of more is less during these trying times !  I exaggerate the issue to make a point 

    So I’m wondering what those bright young men and women over there in Cupertino, California, are going to do about it. Will we see a return to finger ID in some form or another, will we see a virtual finger ID sent to the phones via software updates.  Maybe instead of reading our faces  they’ll read our hands like in Mission Impossible 😎. I’m sure Apple have some very talented software engineers working on the problem right now

    Perhaps if I hadn’t been as careless with my 6s I’d still hang on to her until the finger scan returns as I’m sure it will.


    Kevin

    It won’t have killed it. 

    Unsure though if Apple will bring Touch ID into the power button like they did with the new iPad Air or wait until they are happy with Touch ID technology built into the screen.

    ideally what you want in the future is once you pick up your phone it will unlock immediately regardless of orientation, how your hand is holding it and if your facing it directly but with all the high level of security still present from unauthorised use. 
    I doubt Apple will go back to Touch ID in any device that has already received the Face ID upgrade. 
    Hmm time will tell. 

    Face ID is not really and upgrade over Touch ID, It’s just another method of security and a solution to be able to have a screen go edge to edge on a phone. There is pros and cons of both features and having both would be nice. 

    I feel why Apple don't want to go touch id with their iPhones is because while in-display fingerprint readers are good, they're not quite at the speed Apple would want.
  • Ah thanks everyone I don't use apple stuff but I did hear that people had tried but not sure if worked lol
  • Zellah
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    kah22 said:

    My faithful 6s has been through the wars on more than one occasion and now she’s been retired from active service so come the Apple event this weekend I will be buying a new  iPhone 11 but wondered to myself is ‘face recognition dead in the water’ now we are in the new normal!

    Anyway I hadn’t thought much about face recognition and how it works until a few days back when doing some final checking. Then it struck me; wearing a mask anytime I go out or go shopping makes face recognition almost impossible !  OK perhaps I’m a bit paranoid but if I have to open my phone and enter my PIN number does that not decrease the level of security offered. Is it a matter of more is less during these trying times !  I exaggerate the issue to make a point 

    So I’m wondering what those bright young men and women over there in Cupertino, California, are going to do about it. Will we see a return to finger ID in some form or another, will we see a virtual finger ID sent to the phones via software updates.  Maybe instead of reading our faces  they’ll read our hands like in Mission Impossible 😎. I’m sure Apple have some very talented software engineers working on the problem right now

    Perhaps if I hadn’t been as careless with my 6s I’d still hang on to her until the finger scan returns as I’m sure it will.


    Kevin

    It won’t have killed it. 

    Unsure though if Apple will bring Touch ID into the power button like they did with the new iPad Air or wait until they are happy with Touch ID technology built into the screen.

    ideally what you want in the future is once you pick up your phone it will unlock immediately regardless of orientation, how your hand is holding it and if your facing it directly but with all the high level of security still present from unauthorised use. 
    I doubt Apple will go back to Touch ID in any device that has already received the Face ID upgrade. 
    Hmm time will tell. 

    Face ID is not really and upgrade over Touch ID, It’s just another method of security and a solution to be able to have a screen go edge to edge on a phone. There is pros and cons of both features and having both would be nice. 

    I think you'll find Face ID is far superior to Touch ID on iOS. Superior in the sense that's its far quicker to authenticate apps such as banking apps when logging in.
  • Zellah said:
    kah22 said:

    My faithful 6s has been through the wars on more than one occasion and now she’s been retired from active service so come the Apple event this weekend I will be buying a new  iPhone 11 but wondered to myself is ‘face recognition dead in the water’ now we are in the new normal!

    Anyway I hadn’t thought much about face recognition and how it works until a few days back when doing some final checking. Then it struck me; wearing a mask anytime I go out or go shopping makes face recognition almost impossible !  OK perhaps I’m a bit paranoid but if I have to open my phone and enter my PIN number does that not decrease the level of security offered. Is it a matter of more is less during these trying times !  I exaggerate the issue to make a point 

    So I’m wondering what those bright young men and women over there in Cupertino, California, are going to do about it. Will we see a return to finger ID in some form or another, will we see a virtual finger ID sent to the phones via software updates.  Maybe instead of reading our faces  they’ll read our hands like in Mission Impossible 😎. I’m sure Apple have some very talented software engineers working on the problem right now

    Perhaps if I hadn’t been as careless with my 6s I’d still hang on to her until the finger scan returns as I’m sure it will.


    Kevin

    It won’t have killed it. 

    Unsure though if Apple will bring Touch ID into the power button like they did with the new iPad Air or wait until they are happy with Touch ID technology built into the screen.

    ideally what you want in the future is once you pick up your phone it will unlock immediately regardless of orientation, how your hand is holding it and if your facing it directly but with all the high level of security still present from unauthorised use. 
    I doubt Apple will go back to Touch ID in any device that has already received the Face ID upgrade. 
    Hmm time will tell. 

    Face ID is not really and upgrade over Touch ID, It’s just another method of security and a solution to be able to have a screen go edge to edge on a phone. There is pros and cons of both features and having both would be nice. 

    I think you'll find Face ID is far superior to Touch ID on iOS. Superior in the sense that's its far quicker to authenticate apps such as banking apps when logging in.
    I’ve used both and it’s not superior.

     Touch ID and Face ID have pros and cons and I prefer one over the other in different circumstances. 


  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 30 November 2020 at 10:57AM
    Timalay said:
    kah22 said:

    My faithful 6s has been through the wars on more than one occasion and now she’s been retired from active service so come the Apple event this weekend I will be buying a new  iPhone 11 but wondered to myself is ‘face recognition dead in the water’ now we are in the new normal!

    Anyway I hadn’t thought much about face recognition and how it works until a few days back when doing some final checking. Then it struck me; wearing a mask anytime I go out or go shopping makes face recognition almost impossible !  OK perhaps I’m a bit paranoid but if I have to open my phone and enter my PIN number does that not decrease the level of security offered. Is it a matter of more is less during these trying times !  I exaggerate the issue to make a point 

    So I’m wondering what those bright young men and women over there in Cupertino, California, are going to do about it. Will we see a return to finger ID in some form or another, will we see a virtual finger ID sent to the phones via software updates.  Maybe instead of reading our faces  they’ll read our hands like in Mission Impossible 😎. I’m sure Apple have some very talented software engineers working on the problem right now

    Perhaps if I hadn’t been as careless with my 6s I’d still hang on to her until the finger scan returns as I’m sure it will.


    Kevin

    It won’t have killed it. 

    Unsure though if Apple will bring Touch ID into the power button like they did with the new iPad Air or wait until they are happy with Touch ID technology built into the screen.

    ideally what you want in the future is once you pick up your phone it will unlock immediately regardless of orientation, how your hand is holding it and if your facing it directly but with all the high level of security still present from unauthorised use. 
    I doubt Apple will go back to Touch ID in any device that has already received the Face ID upgrade. 
    Hmm time will tell. 

    Face ID is not really and upgrade over Touch ID, It’s just another method of security and a solution to be able to have a screen go edge to edge on a phone. There is pros and cons of both features and having both would be nice. 

    I feel why Apple don't want to go touch id with their iPhones is because while in-display fingerprint readers are good, they're not quite at the speed Apple would want.
    You’re probably right. If they built it into the screen it would have to be as fast as Touch ID in the home button or Face ID. 

    One thing I loved with Touch ID was when I went to pay contactless I would take my phone out of my pocket with finger already on button and pay without looking at phone. 

  • Zellah
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    Zellah said:
    kah22 said:

    My faithful 6s has been through the wars on more than one occasion and now she’s been retired from active service so come the Apple event this weekend I will be buying a new  iPhone 11 but wondered to myself is ‘face recognition dead in the water’ now we are in the new normal!

    Anyway I hadn’t thought much about face recognition and how it works until a few days back when doing some final checking. Then it struck me; wearing a mask anytime I go out or go shopping makes face recognition almost impossible !  OK perhaps I’m a bit paranoid but if I have to open my phone and enter my PIN number does that not decrease the level of security offered. Is it a matter of more is less during these trying times !  I exaggerate the issue to make a point 

    So I’m wondering what those bright young men and women over there in Cupertino, California, are going to do about it. Will we see a return to finger ID in some form or another, will we see a virtual finger ID sent to the phones via software updates.  Maybe instead of reading our faces  they’ll read our hands like in Mission Impossible 😎. I’m sure Apple have some very talented software engineers working on the problem right now

    Perhaps if I hadn’t been as careless with my 6s I’d still hang on to her until the finger scan returns as I’m sure it will.


    Kevin

    It won’t have killed it. 

    Unsure though if Apple will bring Touch ID into the power button like they did with the new iPad Air or wait until they are happy with Touch ID technology built into the screen.

    ideally what you want in the future is once you pick up your phone it will unlock immediately regardless of orientation, how your hand is holding it and if your facing it directly but with all the high level of security still present from unauthorised use. 
    I doubt Apple will go back to Touch ID in any device that has already received the Face ID upgrade. 
    Hmm time will tell. 

    Face ID is not really and upgrade over Touch ID, It’s just another method of security and a solution to be able to have a screen go edge to edge on a phone. There is pros and cons of both features and having both would be nice. 

    I think you'll find Face ID is far superior to Touch ID on iOS. Superior in the sense that's its far quicker to authenticate apps such as banking apps when logging in.
    I’ve used both and it’s not superior.

     Touch ID and Face ID have pros and cons and I prefer one over the other in different circumstances. 


    Maybe you should tell the Apple designers that? They may even offer you a lucrative role at Cupertino since you seem to think all iOS users would prefer both Face ID and Touch ID to be incorporated into iOS devices. 
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