Can agent ask me to pay for a hob that is chipped?

alandaniel132

Got a replied from TDS:
Hello. If landlord/agent is claiming £XXX from your deposit, and the adjudicator makes a decision in their favour, the adjudicator will return the amount in dispute to the agent/landlord. The adjudicator will not request additional funds from you as the tenant.

alex132

That is what I am thinking. My previous letting agent appointment a cleaner to clean the flat after I left and charging me £500 for 1 bedroom flat. Can i request for dispute?

saajan_12

alex132 said:

That is what I am thinking. My previous letting agent appointment a cleaner to clean the flat after I left and charging me £500 for 1 bedroom flat. Can i request for dispute?

Happy to help, but I'm holding off replying here so as to not confuse things. Please start your own thread. 

Were_Doomed

Why not let @alex132 have this thread? The OP already has another one regarding the exact same topic.

alex132

saajan_12 said:

alex132 said:

That is what I am thinking. My previous letting agent appointment a cleaner to clean the flat after I left and charging me £500 for 1 bedroom flat. Can i request for dispute?

Happy to help, but I'm holding off replying here so as to not confuse things. Please start your own thread. 

here you go https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6218162/what-is-the-concequensce-of-dispute-via-tds/p1?new=1

alex132

Falafels said:

To the OP - when I rented out my property, a tenant caused serious damage to my hob. I offered a settlement, which he didn't accept, and he took me to the TDS - who awarded me more than my initial offer.

Look at the responses you've had on here. They will help you decide what a reasonable offer should be, and only go to the TDS if you can show that you've been polite and reasonable throughout. It's not true that you've got nothing to lose; they don't always find in favour of the tenant and, in the case of my little guy, the fact that his correspondence was rude and intimidatory did him no good at all.

hi, I am referring to my post in 
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/77807559#Comment_77807559

Can you confirm that TDS will charge me more?

mrschaucer

I think if you look at the instructions for any ceramic/induction hob, you are specifically told NOT to use it if it is chipped, so a new one is a necessity from the safety point of view.

FreeBear

mrschaucer said: I think if you look at the instructions for any ceramic/induction hob, you are specifically told NOT to use it if it is chipped, so a new one is a necessity from the safety point of view.

The glass is usually a toughened heat resistant glass. Any chips are stress points that can lead to major cracking or even shattering.

The only thing likely to have caused the damage in the OP's pictures is a pan that got extremely hot (boiled dry and left perhaps ?). This would lead to localised heating of the glass, and when cooled rapidly (cool air after the pan was removed), the surface flaked due to thermal shock. The dark ring around the heat zone supports this hypothesis. Ergo, the damage is most likely down to misuse by the OP and not "fair wear & tear".

Suck it up bud and settle with the landlord and learn from your mistakes.

allIcouldwishfor

bolwin1 said:

If I was your landlord & was taken to TDS over something that is so clearly your fault and not wear & tear, I would also claim for the cost of fitting it, which could easily cost you another £100. And quite frankly, you would deserve it. 

Oh to have OP’s audacity! 

pramsay13

nyermen said:

Agree with the comments here, that looks like damage caused by a wet pan being left on the hob, so it goes rusty, and then over time, the damage to the hob gets worse due to resulting heat / scouring / etc.  
One thing I find interesting though is that the OP pays for pro-rated replacement, which the landlord doesn't have to replace (ie. they could run it for the remaining X years or so but damaged).  I've never been clear why the tenant shouldn't have the option to receive the damaged item if they've technically paid for it?.  Eg. If the tenant had actually taken the hob with them, would they be paying any more or less?

The money awarded is not the tenant paying for the damaged item, the money awarded is to compensate the landlord for having an item that is now damaged. The landlord can choose to live with it, reduce rent, change it for a new one, whatever.
If the tenant was paying for the damaged one you would instead have to look at removal costs and indeed the tenant paying more for the new one as they would be leaving the landlord without a hob, which is in a worse position than the start of the tenancy.