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HampshireH

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Hi, my partners gran is looking to sell her house (myself and my partner will be the buyers), but prior to doing that she wants to find sheltered/aided housing, as she is severely disabled with scoliosis, arthritis, amongst a number of other things, at the age of 84.

my question is, what would be the best way to go about this?

She wants to get out ASAP, as she has fallen down the stairs, been stuck upstairs without being able to get to the ground floor to shower/bathroom etc, just general elderly issues, also being a 3 bedroom house it’s hard for her to maintain alone.

what steps can she/we take to help her get this help and housing sooner rather than later? We’re worried she’s going to take a harder tumble than what she has previously, and that’s not something we want.

we’re South Wales/Swansea based, not sure if that will help at all with info, but maybe it will.

Any info on what housing associations, what to do  to get this process done in a speedy manner (preferably before Christmas hits) etc.


thanks in advance. 

You have next to no chance of her going into a housing association property sheltered or otherwise before xmas.

Many /most run waiting lists and depending on the area have a bidding system.

She needs to get registered and get a GP letter to support medical needs.

The local council can advise you of their policy but should also be on their website

Goodluck

Flugelhorn

will she be looking to buy or rent?

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HampshireH said:

[Deleted User] said:

Hi, my partners gran is looking to sell her house (myself and my partner will be the buyers), but prior to doing that she wants to find sheltered/aided housing, as she is severely disabled with scoliosis, arthritis, amongst a number of other things, at the age of 84.

my question is, what would be the best way to go about this?

She wants to get out ASAP, as she has fallen down the stairs, been stuck upstairs without being able to get to the ground floor to shower/bathroom etc, just general elderly issues, also being a 3 bedroom house it’s hard for her to maintain alone.

what steps can she/we take to help her get this help and housing sooner rather than later? We’re worried she’s going to take a harder tumble than what she has previously, and that’s not something we want.

we’re South Wales/Swansea based, not sure if that will help at all with info, but maybe it will.

Any info on what housing associations, what to do  to get this process done in a speedy manner (preferably before Christmas hits) etc.


thanks in advance. 

You have next to no chance of her going into a housing association property sheltered or otherwise before xmas.

Many /most run waiting lists and depending on the area have a bidding system.

She needs to get registered and get a GP letter to support medical needs.

The local council can advise you of their policy but should also be on their website

Goodluck

Oh she has files full of doctor reports of her problems, and I mean files.

when going through her illnesses, I think we added it up to around 15 in total.

Flugelhorn said:

will she be looking to buy or rent?

She will be looking to rent:).

Shiny_things_distract_me

Over the last few years I've run a mix of sheltered leasehold/rented schemes and one extra care.
I honestly think your nan is beyond the stage of sheltered housing, and extra care would be more suited.
Sheltered these days (largely) means 'independent living', with the added bonus of a lifeline system. What was once the 'Wardens' role, where many were full time and would live on site is now a largely administrative position, and some sites are visited on a weekly basis. Quite a few schemes have no lifts, and the ground floor will be very sought after.
Extra Care will have care staff on site, but will usually stipulate a weekly care package must be taken up.
The worst thing to do would be go with 'sheltered' for her to have to move again in the very near future. 
In any case, you'll need to get in touch with your local council who will probably have a mix of their own stock, access to what's available via HA's, and possibly nomination rights for some.

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Shiny_things_distract_me said:

Over the last few years I've run a mix of sheltered leasehold/rented schemes and one extra care.
I honestly think your nan is beyond the stage of sheltered housing, and extra care would be more suited.
Sheltered these days (largely) means 'independent living', with the added bonus of a lifeline system. What was once the 'Wardens' role, where many were full time and would live on site is now a largely administrative position, and some sites are visited on a weekly basis. Quite a few schemes have no lifts, and the ground floor will be very sought after.
Extra Care will have care staff on site, but will usually stipulate a weekly care package must be taken up.
The worst thing to do would be go with 'sheltered' for her to have to move again in the very near future. 
In any case, you'll need to get in touch with your local council who will probably have a mix of their own stock, access to what's available via HA's, and possibly nomination rights for some.

Your opinion then would be ‘Extra care’? She wants to have her own ‘home’ as such, as she still likes to be independent as best she can.

HampshireH

Extra care is usually a flat within a complex with care staff on site and each resident having a tailored care package.

Frequently have communal lounges, washing facilities, on site catering etc. As well as fully equipped independent flats.

Of course there is an associated service charge payable in addition to rent. 

I agree it does sound like a more sensible option.

NameUnavailable

Yes you need the type of place that has staff on site 24/7. They will check up on her a couple of times a day at least and they usually provide lunch in a communal dining room (although the flats have their own kitchen facilites), organise collection of medications, do the laundry etc. My Mum lived in one and it was great, even though she was really not looking forward to moving there it gave her a new lease of life in her final years, as well as giving us the peace of mind that she was being checked in on.

I expect she will be expected to pay for it out of the proceeds of her house in any case - you need to speak to your local council in the first instance I think to see what options are available as well as making direct enquiries with local providers. 

LittleMax

If you've not already seen it, a lot of information at http://www.housingcare.org/

md258

As a temporary option, could you and your partner move in with her? Then she'd have someone to help her down the stairs and you'd be able to check on her easily.

You'd need to think through and agree the full impact of doing this- (who cooks, cleans, does the washing etc and if how frequently it is reviewed) but it may give gran some of the support she needs in the short term. Converting the living/dining room into her bedroom could help with the stairs if the bathroom is downstairs (which is how I read your post)

I'm afraid I can't comment on levels of care or how to get it

Flugelhorn

I have relative in flat in extra care type complex -  been there 2 years - she has her own flat and carer visits several times a day but is teetering on the edge of needing more care, (several falls / fractures / hospital admissions / needed medication  supervised). I am not aware of all the costs of this but they will be significant.