HM land registry certificate of identity - what constitutes a bank official

Bark01

Hi,
I need a signature witness for a land registry form. I 'm struggling to find someone who meets the criteria on the ID3 form. One of my friends is a regulated mortgage advisor for one of the big banks, he the guy you see in the branch not the call centre guys. Would that count as a bank official? I can't seem to find a definition for what they mean by that.

John_

I’d say so, yes.

AdrianC

@Land_Registry

sweetsand

Bark01 said:

Hi,
I need a signature witness for a land registry form. I 'm struggling to find someone who meets the criteria on the ID3 form. One of my friends is a regulated mortgage advisor for one of the big banks, he the guy you see in the branch not the call centre guys. Would that count as a bank official? I can't seem to find a definition for what they mean by that.

The landregistry site makes it clear and as we have giffted a property in recent years they were very helpful on the phone and easy to get hold off via phone. But with Covid it may be more diff but landreg site and their videos are all very helpful videos on youtube by land Reg.
HTH

CocoM2020

sweetsand said:

Bark01 said:

Hi,
I need a signature witness for a land registry form. I 'm struggling to find someone who meets the criteria on the ID3 form. One of my friends is a regulated mortgage advisor for one of the big banks, he the guy you see in the branch not the call centre guys. Would that count as a bank official? I can't seem to find a definition for what they mean by that.

The landregistry site makes it clear and as we have giffted a property in recent years they were very helpful on the phone and easy to get hold off via phone. But with Covid it may be more diff but landreg site and their videos are all very helpful videos on youtube by land Reg.
HTH

Did you even read their question? Judging by your answer/spelling I’m going for a big NO. And I know you think it’s an excuse but given these strange times it’s harder to contact people such as Land Registry via telephone as they may be working from home. 

I agree that form is quite confusing - normally they have a footnote to explain the definitions of what they require. 

Bark01

AdrianC said:

@Land_Registry

That would be usefull!

@sweetsand
I looked around the LR site extensively before posting here and couldn't find any guidance. 

The legal guidance for bank officials suggest its the top brass (https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Bank+Officials#:~:text=The election and term of,banking practices, and employment contracts.)

But searching for "countersign bank officials" brings up loads of hits for similar posts to mine but on passports rather than LR and people seem to think its anyone who works in a branch.

If @Land_Registry doesn't respond tomorrow I'll try and find a phone number.

greatcrested

as long as he uses an official bank stamp along with his signature and job title, I'm sure that will be fine.

sweetsand

Bark01 said:

AdrianC said:

@Land_Registry

That would be usefull!

@sweetsand
I looked around the LR site extensively before posting here and couldn't find any guidance. 

The legal guidance for bank officials suggest its the top brass (https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Bank+Officials#:~:text=The election and term of,banking practices, and employment contracts.)

But searching for "countersign bank officials" brings up loads of hits for similar posts to mine but on passports rather than LR and people seem to think its anyone who works in a branch.

If @Land_Registry doesn't respond tomorrow I'll try and find a phone number.

Hi
See part 5 2.1.  I recall using a solictor when we gifted the apartment to our daughter about 3 years ago - we complete all froms etc and only the verification was done via solictor, they charge the three of us 50 quid each - we made an appt, all three went 20 mins drive from our home and took passport sized pics, they sigen and stamped on the back i think we signed as well i think and got items there and then. inc the ID3 forms per person. Easiet and best way imo. The doctor charge more our doctor and the solictors was next door to daughters workplace.
I hope Ive understood you correctly.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/886961/ID3__2020-05-26_.pdf
part 5 - subsection 2.1
You can ask your doc but they may charge more or do it for free

HTH

sweetsand

I tried landregistery phone the other day about a proerty we may buy, I think they are closed to phone calls but do try!

0300 006 0411

HM Land Registry - Croydon Office, phone
They were very helpful when we did the gift of the apartment ourselves.
HTH

Bark01

greatcrested said:

as long as he uses an official bank stamp along with his signature and job title, I'm sure that will be fine.

The witness just need to provide a signature and their passport number there is no space for a stamp or a job title, they just tick a box next to their general profession

 isweetsand said:

the verification was done via solicitor, they charge the three of us 50 quid each -

That's a waste of £150 IMO and not the easiest option by along shot for me.  If I can get it done via a good friend for free without leaving the house then why wouldn't I do that. That's the whole point of this thread. Obviously i can go out of my way to find a solicitor, book an appointment and pay them some money.
Its a money saving website after all. 

sweetsand

your choice

atb