Puppy is struggling to walk at 10 weeks

sheramber

Clouds88 said:

Also thanks for that info about rescue centres I will get in touch with a few and see what they say xx

If you are  interested in a retriever or retriever cross I can strongly recommend Irish Retriever   Rescue UK.  They rescue  retrievers  and their crosses  from Ireland and rehome in UK. 
You can find them on facebook.

theoretica

I can't speak for most rescues - I do know someone who tried every rescue they could identify in the area for about a year and not one had anything they would offer them - experienced dog owners but now with smallish children.  It may be different in different areas.

Katiehound

Personally I would be very very worried about getting another puppy from that 'breeder.' For all you (or anyone else) knows she could be buying them in from anywhere. That's why folk are told to see the puppies with parents, mother at least.

The whole situation is very very sad- no puppy should be unable to stand- puppies are on the go from early on: sadly she took you for a ride as inexperienced owners.

A whole sorry story. I would be changing your mind and saying that you need the money back as you are so upset by what has happened- you need to get over your grief etc. It would be interesting to hear what she says to that.

and mine are always rescue......

Clouds88

I'm going to see how we feel in a few weeks.. although I did see the mum, she was with the puppies the whole time, they were being raised in one of her front rooms, we visited 3 times during him growing and we met the dad dog too and a few of her others xx 

Katiehound

The reason I said that you could ask for the money back is because I don't think anyone would argue that you did not have a very sad stressful, devastating situation. In which case you might actually want your money back and could possibly go to the small claims court if the breeder is awkward.

I would be concerned that this particular breeder maybe does not carry out essential tests and that her puppies might not be the healthiest if inbred faults , such as hip displaysia are present.
t rather depends if you want the healthiest puppies or the healthiest bank balance.

Whatever you decide to do I hope that the outcome is as fun and happy as it can be. Owning a dog is a fulfilling joyful experience- except where the dog chews plugs off the vacuum cleaner!!! Joking apart ,I know I would miss my hounds very very much.

Aranyani

Clouds88 said:

I'm going to see how we feel in a few weeks.. although I did see the mum, she was with the puppies the whole time, they were being raised in one of her front rooms, we visited 3 times during him growing and we met the dad dog too and a few of her others xx 

Generally, the most responsible breeders don't own both parents anyway.  They carefully select the right stud for every mating.  I think more people might turn to amateur breeding having lost jobs due to Covid, they probably aren't bad people but that doesn't mean they aren't causing harm unintentionally.   As you have sadly learned. 

gettingtheresometime

sheramber said:

ace33 said:

MalMonroe said:

I wish I hadn't clicked on this thread, it's really upset me. I feel so sorry but I don't know how you can contemplate having a new pup so soon. Not being critical, just that I couldn't do that - would need a bit longer to grieve and get over such a horrible experience.

Also I really do not understand the desire for people to keep going to breeders when there are so many dogs at shelters desperately looking for a loving forever home. If you love dogs, you love dogs and would rehome any dog that needs a home. 

Not quite as black and white as that.

Most rescue centres have ridiculous rehoming policies that make it difficult for people to adopt. This drives people to BYBs and overseas rescues unfortunately.

Reputable breeders struggle to keep up with demand and pumping them out is far from reputable too.

 What is your proof /experience of most rescues having ridiculous rehoming policies?
I have not found that and have  rehomed two dogs- one a puppy. 

Whilst I fully understand that rescues have to be very careful of the home that the dogs are released to, I have to admit that I've found dealing with rescues to be a nightmare & it would have been far easier to hand over a wad of cash to a breeder.

I applied to foster dogs with a charity, even having the home visit but when they wanted a reference I gave them the postal address of someone they had a strop & wouldn't take it further as they would only make contact by phone or email. I've just applied for a dog but apparently you don't even get the 'thanks but no thanks email' anymore ....if you don't hear anything you're to assume you've been unlucky.

Katiehound

gettingtheresometime said:

sheramber said:

ace33 said:

MalMonroe said:

I wish I hadn't clicked on this thread, it's really upset me. I feel so sorry but I don't know how you can contemplate having a new pup so soon. Not being critical, just that I couldn't do that - would need a bit longer to grieve and get over such a horrible experience.

Also I really do not understand the desire for people to keep going to breeders when there are so many dogs at shelters desperately looking for a loving forever home. If you love dogs, you love dogs and would rehome any dog that needs a home. 

Not quite as black and white as that.

Most rescue centres have ridiculous rehoming policies that make it difficult for people to adopt. This drives people to BYBs and overseas rescues unfortunately.

Reputable breeders struggle to keep up with demand and pumping them out is far from reputable too.

 What is your proof /experience of most rescues having ridiculous rehoming policies?
I have not found that and have  rehomed two dogs- one a puppy. 

Whilst I fully understand that rescues have to be very careful of the home that the dogs are released to, I have to admit that I've found dealing with rescues to be a nightmare & it would have been far easier to hand over a wad of cash to a breeder.

 

One of the problems at the moment is that many unsuitable people are applying for dogs- suddenly they are at home all day  and need a cute / cuddly dog!
My friend runs rehoming for a breed and she no longer posts photos of available dogs online due to this very problem. She only posts photos when they have been rehomed

gettingtheresometime

Katiehound said:

gettingtheresometime said:

sheramber said:

ace33 said:

MalMonroe said:

I wish I hadn't clicked on this thread, it's really upset me. I feel so sorry but I don't know how you can contemplate having a new pup so soon. Not being critical, just that I couldn't do that - would need a bit longer to grieve and get over such a horrible experience.

Also I really do not understand the desire for people to keep going to breeders when there are so many dogs at shelters desperately looking for a loving forever home. If you love dogs, you love dogs and would rehome any dog that needs a home. 

Not quite as black and white as that.

Most rescue centres have ridiculous rehoming policies that make it difficult for people to adopt. This drives people to BYBs and overseas rescues unfortunately.

Reputable breeders struggle to keep up with demand and pumping them out is far from reputable too.

 What is your proof /experience of most rescues having ridiculous rehoming policies?
I have not found that and have  rehomed two dogs- one a puppy. 

Whilst I fully understand that rescues have to be very careful of the home that the dogs are released to, I have to admit that I've found dealing with rescues to be a nightmare & it would have been far easier to hand over a wad of cash to a breeder.

 

One of the problems at the moment is that many unsuitable people are applying for dogs- suddenly they are at home all day  and need a cute / cuddly dog!
My friend runs rehoming for a breed and she no longer posts photos of available dogs online due to this very problem. She only posts photos when they have been rehomed

Oh I've no doubt there are but my experience is well before Covid (if you can remember that far back!) 
As an example of the situations we've experienced, I phoned up a rehoming centre about a pup that they were looking to rehome but one of the criteria was that the new owners had had experience of the breed which we had. Then they talked about our dog's medical history, which they wanted a copy of - again no problem and this was provided. However we were told that as he hadn't been neutered (bearing in mind the reason we wanted a new dog was because he had passed away) we wouldn't be considered.
Now if they had said one of the conditions of the pup's adoption was that he had to be neutered we would have accepted that and carried it out but we were automatically rejected so couldn't.
Again we've been rejected by another rehoming centre with the only reason being given is that our home isn't suitable - which given that the questionnaire we filled in was a generic one I find that hard to believe .....I'm more inclined to believe that as we live a fair distance from the rehoming centre, that was the influencing factor. Again I could accept that if they'd said that but they didn't.
The other thing to consider is that when I have considered buying a pup I've noticed lots of adverts for pups being put up for resale ...presumably by people who thought it was a good idea to have a pup but are now realising the true meaning of what it takes to have a dog. Previously they would have taken the pup to a rehoming centre but having spent over a £1000, they obviously need to recoup some of that money and I do wonder what those pups are heading for.

Sagz_2

If you do ahead and take a pup from the same breeder please take it straight to a vet for a health check before you bond with him/her. And if not 100%satisfied return the pup and report the breeder to Trading Standards. 
1 sick pup is distressing but 2 should sound huge alarm bells. 

I hope you soon welcome a new, healthy, pet to your family x