New car trouble

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Lorian said:

turn the fast demist off first.....

My old Corsa did something like that, If you got into a roasting car parked in the sun, wanted maximum cooling and turned something, it went onto recirculate and just cycled the oven hot air round the cabin, rather than taking in cooler fresh air. I can't remember how it worked now, but it was really annoying.

Tbh, I've never really got on with "climate", when I'm hot, I want an icy blast in my face and over my feet, and when I'm cold I want hot air over my legs & feet, I don't care whether the car itself is at the set temperature, it is me that matters, and I'm useless at measuring temperature, but pretty good at feeling hot or cold.

neilmcl

sweetsand said:

mikrt1 said:

Hope somebody can advise.
Bought my 2013 Asta last week, 70,000 miles for £5k, on 25th September from a garage. Took it for its first decent spin last night, 300 miles west coast Wales to east coast England up the m4.
About 90 mins into journey I decided it was a bit cold so I turned the air con off. It immediately misted up the windscreen so I pressed the button to turn it back on again, but it wouldn't come on. Pressed a few times but the light wouldn't come on. I pressed the button under it, turned out to be the recirc button, and that stayed on and wouldn't turn off. So I was going up the m4 without air con and moist air recirculating. The fast clear windscreen button worked until I pulled over at service station, ignition off and on and worked ok again. 
Contacted the garage via WhatsApp and they say Vauxhalls are meant to do that.

Obviously talking bs.

I'm tempted to reject the car as it may be an expensive fix, even though it fixed turning ignition off/on. 
He also told me car has Sat nav but it doesn't - I know I should have checked, but I asked and I believed him.
Are these grounds to formally reject a week old car? 

Thanks in advance and apologies for the length.

Hi OP
Sorry, not familiar with your type of car but are not all family sized cars have climate control as opposed to air con?
Main dealers recommend you keep the climate control on even in cooler weather just control the heat zones and have the comfy temp you and your passengers desire. Yes, if turned off as I once did no a new car, windows misted up it was raining and ever since I dont touch the on/off buttons but just turn the temps up and down and speed of fan.

someone here with your type of car may confirm but IMHO the seller is correct.
Btw, did you not note the car did not have sat nav when you picked up your car? Btw, haveyou checked the cars manual? Whenever we get a new car we just as the handover person re controls. However, the first car we got years ago that came with an auto brake, IE automatic still in drive, one taps, gently pushes the brake pedal when pulled up that holds the car until one touches the acclelrator peddal so an new car does get some time getting used to it.

HTH

x

No they don't.

macman

neilmcl said:

sweetsand said:

mikrt1 said:

Hope somebody can advise.
Bought my 2013 Asta last week, 70,000 miles for £5k, on 25th September from a garage. Took it for its first decent spin last night, 300 miles west coast Wales to east coast England up the m4.
About 90 mins into journey I decided it was a bit cold so I turned the air con off. It immediately misted up the windscreen so I pressed the button to turn it back on again, but it wouldn't come on. Pressed a few times but the light wouldn't come on. I pressed the button under it, turned out to be the recirc button, and that stayed on and wouldn't turn off. So I was going up the m4 without air con and moist air recirculating. The fast clear windscreen button worked until I pulled over at service station, ignition off and on and worked ok again. 
Contacted the garage via WhatsApp and they say Vauxhalls are meant to do that.

Obviously talking bs.

I'm tempted to reject the car as it may be an expensive fix, even though it fixed turning ignition off/on. 
He also told me car has Sat nav but it doesn't - I know I should have checked, but I asked and I believed him.
Are these grounds to formally reject a week old car? 

Thanks in advance and apologies for the length.

Hi OP
Sorry, not familiar with your type of car but are not all family sized cars have climate control as opposed to air con?
Main dealers recommend you keep the climate control on even in cooler weather just control the heat zones and have the comfy temp you and your passengers desire. Yes, if turned off as I once did no a new car, windows misted up it was raining and ever since I dont touch the on/off buttons but just turn the temps up and down and speed of fan.

someone here with your type of car may confirm but IMHO the seller is correct.
Btw, did you not note the car did not have sat nav when you picked up your car? Btw, haveyou checked the cars manual? Whenever we get a new car we just as the handover person re controls. However, the first car we got years ago that came with an auto brake, IE automatic still in drive, one taps, gently pushes the brake pedal when pulled up that holds the car until one touches the acclelrator peddal so an new car does get some time getting used to it.

HTH

x

No they don't.

All the ones that sweetsand drives do...

Grumpy_chap

macman said:

neilmcl said:

sweetsand said:

mikrt1 said:

Hope somebody can advise.
Bought my 2013 Asta last week, 70,000 miles for £5k, on 25th September from a garage. Took it for its first decent spin last night, 300 miles west coast Wales to east coast England up the m4.
About 90 mins into journey I decided it was a bit cold so I turned the air con off. It immediately misted up the windscreen so I pressed the button to turn it back on again, but it wouldn't come on. Pressed a few times but the light wouldn't come on. I pressed the button under it, turned out to be the recirc button, and that stayed on and wouldn't turn off. So I was going up the m4 without air con and moist air recirculating. The fast clear windscreen button worked until I pulled over at service station, ignition off and on and worked ok again. 
Contacted the garage via WhatsApp and they say Vauxhalls are meant to do that.

Obviously talking bs.

I'm tempted to reject the car as it may be an expensive fix, even though it fixed turning ignition off/on. 
He also told me car has Sat nav but it doesn't - I know I should have checked, but I asked and I believed him.
Are these grounds to formally reject a week old car? 

Thanks in advance and apologies for the length.

Hi OP
Sorry, not familiar with your type of car but are not all family sized cars have climate control as opposed to air con?
Main dealers recommend you keep the climate control on even in cooler weather just control the heat zones and have the comfy temp you and your passengers desire. Yes, if turned off as I once did no a new car, windows misted up it was raining and ever since I dont touch the on/off buttons but just turn the temps up and down and speed of fan.

someone here with your type of car may confirm but IMHO the seller is correct.
Btw, did you not note the car did not have sat nav when you picked up your car? Btw, haveyou checked the cars manual? Whenever we get a new car we just as the handover person re controls. However, the first car we got years ago that came with an auto brake, IE automatic still in drive, one taps, gently pushes the brake pedal when pulled up that holds the car until one touches the acclelrator peddal so an new car does get some time getting used to it.

HTH

x

No they don't.

All the ones that sweetsand drives do...

You mean the Golf R, as none of her other cars are "family sized cars"

sweetsand

mikrt1 said:

Fault reoccured an hour or so later. I did wonder if it was just low on gas, but that wouldn't account for the recirc sticking on I'd have thought.

Regarding turning off the fast demist, fault occurred before I put that on, I put it on to clear the screen. I then tried getting switches to work with it off and on, also fan off, and on all speeds, as well as temperature setting at both extremes.

Dear OP
Read the manual, possibly look up youtube/etc how to get the best out of your aircon then do a step by step check then possibly repeat that when the cars warmed up. It may be easier to replicate the scenario during rainy, wet weather.  If you are able to determine there is a fault and how this exactly happens, you will have a stronger case.
ATB

Sea_Shell

We had a similar issue.    I've just asked OH, as it's his car.  

I think it was something like, if you have the vents on Windscreen only, the air-con comes on automatically and you can't turn it off.    So yes, Astra's do have some foibles when it comes to the air-con, but I appreciate this isn't the exact problem you are having.

But you can try that.    Put the vents to screen only and see if it come back on.

poppy12345

sweetsand said:

mikrt1 said:

Hope somebody can advise.
Bought my 2013 Asta last week, 70,000 miles for £5k, on 25th September from a garage. Took it for its first decent spin last night, 300 miles west coast Wales to east coast England up the m4.
About 90 mins into journey I decided it was a bit cold so I turned the air con off. It immediately misted up the windscreen so I pressed the button to turn it back on again, but it wouldn't come on. Pressed a few times but the light wouldn't come on. I pressed the button under it, turned out to be the recirc button, and that stayed on and wouldn't turn off. So I was going up the m4 without air con and moist air recirculating. The fast clear windscreen button worked until I pulled over at service station, ignition off and on and worked ok again. 
Contacted the garage via WhatsApp and they say Vauxhalls are meant to do that.

Obviously talking bs.

I'm tempted to reject the car as it may be an expensive fix, even though it fixed turning ignition off/on. 
He also told me car has Sat nav but it doesn't - I know I should have checked, but I asked and I believed him.
Are these grounds to formally reject a week old car? 

Thanks in advance and apologies for the length.

Hi OP
Sorry, not familiar with your type of car but are not all family sized cars have climate control as opposed to air con?

x

Umm no absolutely not and i'm not even sure why you would think that. I have a large family sized car and mine has both air con and climate control.

mikrt1

Thank you again to all you genuine helpers, but I feel some are being deliberately obtuse.
Please see video of 2nd incident, the one I sent to dealer.    
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15WsiGsliCZoFdu8Qo6dTVKeospY5QmlR/view?usp=drivesdk
It's simple, pressing air con button should turn it on. Pressing recirc button should turn it off.

Reading the manual or watching YouTube doesn't change that there is a fault.

Thanks again

sweetsand

mikrt1 said:

Thank you again to all you genuine helpers, but I feel some are being deliberately obtuse.
Please see video of 2nd incident, the one I sent to dealer.    
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15WsiGsliCZoFdu8Qo6dTVKeospY5QmlR/view?usp=drivesdk
It's simple, possessing air con button should turn it on. Pressing recirc button should turn it off.

Reading the manual or watching YouTube doesn't change that there is a fault.

Thanks again

Thank you for the update OP
IMO, you now have a stronger case as Iarmed with that, see what they have to say.
Keep us posted if poss.
Good luck.
x

Scrapit

sweetsand said:

mikrt1 said:

Thank you again to all you genuine helpers, but I feel some are being deliberately obtuse.
Please see video of 2nd incident, the one I sent to dealer.    
https://drive.google.com/file/d/15WsiGsliCZoFdu8Qo6dTVKeospY5QmlR/view?usp=drivesdk
It's simple, possessing air con button should turn it on. Pressing recirc button should turn it off.

Reading the manual or watching YouTube doesn't change that there is a fault.

Thanks again

Thank you for the update OP
IMO, you now have a stronger case as Iarmed with that, see what they have to say.
Keep us posted if poss.
Good luck.
x

No, they don't have a stronger case. They are in exactly the same position.they are lambasting your advice, which is fair enough.