Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) provider?

GS..

Just moved into a new housing estate that is fibre only and digital phones (no phone points). Just found out it's called 

Fibre to the Premises (FTTP). Just wondering whether there's a cheaper provider than BT?

Owain_Moneysaver

If it's Openreach fibre, their list is here and includes Talktalk and Vodaphone
https://www.openreach.com/fibre-broadband/fttp-providers
Some housing estates use the developer's own supplier and you're tied to them until the council adopt the roads and Openreach put in fibre or phone wires. 

matelodave

Interestingly I've had FTTP since April 2018 when it was installed and commissioned by BT but most comparison or quotations that I can get are still only offering ADSL.

Even some of those on the OpenReach FTTP register don't recognise the fact the we've got FTTP and will only offer ADSL.. I had discussions with ZEN earlier this year about trying to swap over to them but they didn't have a process in place to do a transfer and advised me that I'd have to cease my service with BT and then apply to Zen. Those who are offering FTTP  are not much cheaper than BT for similar services (some are significantly more expensive) - we got a good discount and £100 Mastercard when we signed up with BT and I've so far managed to get a discount off BT's prices. IMO the prices wont come down all that much until some of the bigger players (SKY, TalkTalk etc) get geared up for FTTP and proper transfer processes are in place like they are with ADSL.

BTW the best we can get on ADSL is just under 2mbit/s, I'm more than happy with 76mbits on my FTTP. Several of my neighbours are getting 150 or 300mbit/s but 960 is on offer from BT if I wanted it. AFAIK everyone except one is with BT - the odd one managed to set up an FTTP trial with PlusNet(he was an existing customer) but it's not being offered by PN for new customers at the present time.

You may be interested in this regarding migration - it's a few months old but shows the state of the process when I was trying to migrate, although I do feel than some providers make it more difficult than it should be.
 https://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/4638270-fttp-to-fttp-migration.html?fpart=all&vc=1

brewerdave

matelodave said:

Interestingly I've had FTTP since April 2018 when it was installed and commissioned by BT but most comparison or quotations that I can get are still only offering ADSL.

I enquired recently with TalkTalk as my area is currently being enabled for FTTP but I was advised by the Customer Services advisor that TT are only carrying out trials in certain areas. I'm actually currently with PN and they won't give out any info. on future FTTP availability.

mnbvcxz

EE have just started offering it as well.
I suspect that if you get the new user BT incentives, cashback, prepaid credit card etc, and new user discount then BT will be the cheapest at least for the lower speeds. EE with a cashback site might just beat them sometimes. After your BT contract has ended and they put the price up then who knows.

matelodave

Just found this on line, it seems to be providers who aren't using openreach infrastructure so it might be useful for those who are struggling to get a supplier especially those who are on new developments where the builder or developer has contracted a non-openreach supplier to provide the fibre infrastructure

https://www.ofnl.co.uk/residents-businesses/postcode-checker

Neil49

You can get well in excess of £100 cashback for BT installations through Quidco and I'm sure similar with Topcashback. We also got a prepaid card from BT with £120 on it as part of the sign up deal a couple of years ago. It all adds up to a decent saving on the monthly cost. 

Zellah

brewerdave said:

matelodave said:

Interestingly I've had FTTP since April 2018 when it was installed and commissioned by BT but most comparison or quotations that I can get are still only offering ADSL.

I enquired recently with TalkTalk as my area is currently being enabled for FTTP but I was advised by the Customer Services advisor that TT are only carrying out trials in certain areas. I'm actually currently with PN and they won't give out any info. on future FTTP availability.

Not true, as TalkTalk now offer Future Fibre (Openreach based FTTP) nationwide, provided TT have the backhaul capacity at your exchange. TT have a separate dedicated FTTP Dept:
www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/broadband/futurefibre?mml=Fibre_Broadband%7CFuture_Fibre%7C5
(had to put a space as a newbie cannot post links)
 

Zellah

GS.. said:

Just moved into a new housing estate that is fibre only and digital phones (no phone points). Just found out it's called 

Fibre to the Premises (FTTP). Just wondering whether there's a cheaper provider than BT?

 NO. Especially if signing up to BT's FTTP offers such as these:

w ww.bt.com/campaign/full-fibre-240

matelodave

Zellah said:

brewerdave said:

matelodave said:

Interestingly I've had FTTP since April 2018 when it was installed and commissioned by BT but most comparison or quotations that I can get are still only offering ADSL.

I enquired recently with TalkTalk as my area is currently being enabled for FTTP but I was advised by the Customer Services advisor that TT are only carrying out trials in certain areas. I'm actually currently with PN and they won't give out any info. on future FTTP availability.

Not true, as TalkTalk now offer Future Fibre (Openreach based FTTP) nationwide, provided TT have the backhaul capacity at your exchange. TT have a separate dedicated FTTP Dept:
www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/broadband/futurefibre?mml=Fibre_Broadband%7CFuture_Fibre%7C5
(had to put a space as a newbie cannot post links)
 

I've had BT FTTP for since April 2018 but Talk Talk and several others don't or wont offer it where I live - as they say "in selected locations" and I'm obviously not one of them. (I've just checked)
I guess they need a big enough area to be be cabled and enabled to make it worth their while making an offering

Zellah

Ah ok, in that case they probably don’t have the exchange capacity to support the faster fttp services in your area, even if TalkTalk FTTC is available. I recently managed to get TT FTTP so I guess I must have been one of the lucky ones!