Ticket for entering car park and leaving - 6 minutes

thewire12

Redx said:

thewire12 said:

KeithP said:

Where exactly is this ParkingEye car park that you 'stumbled across'?

St Ives, Cornwall. TR26 2HA. 

possibly the golf club ? or is that nearer fistral beach at Newquay ?

It's a small car park a short walk away from the beach in St Ives. It is opposite The Leach Pottery. 

Coupon-mad

And is this a Golden Ticket?    This is important and is all explained in the 3rd post of the announcement thread for NEWBIES.

Look at the image in post #3 of the NEWBIES thread (no link given - this is the thread at the top of the forum to read first).  My signature tells everyone how to click back from any page, to read it.

KeithP

The only car park I could find with a postcode of TR26 2HA was St Ives Coach Park.

Now that you've said "opposite The Leach Pottery", that confirms it's where the coach park is - or was in May 2018. 

Here's The Leach Pottery - https://goo.gl/maps/4uYUZT2CHgeeKRua6
swivel to the other side of the road and see the coach park.

But wait... to the left of the coach park there is a track to a yard, but it doesn't look like a typical PE car park.

KeithP

I have now looked at the coach park's website - http://www.stivescoachpark.co.uk

Lots of pictures of that coach park opposite The Leach Pottery on their website.

However, the wording on their site says the coach park is now out of town, at the St Ives RFC.

Clearly what was the coach park has been infested by PE, and GSV has no images of that.

Coupon-mad

We need the OP to read the NEWBIES thread and tell us if this is a GOLDEN TICKET as per the image there in the 3rd post.

AND - CALLING ALL NEWBIES!

An urgent task – deadline approaching in about ten days:

The Government is consulting for just a few more days, about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework to rein in the rogue parking firms.  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation, and get everyone you know to do the same.

You will need to register then log in, to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker.  Submit comments as soon as you are happy with them.

https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

You do not need to register to comment on the enforcement framework which can be found here. It has a link on page 5 to make comments.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/913272/Code_Enforcement_Framework_consultation.pdf

HOW TO DO THE SUBMISSIONS:

1. Read the cover letter

2. Read the cover letter again and note the suggested extra questions...and if you agree that, say, the 'loading/unloading and dropping off, asking for directions, and disabled people parking on double yellows as they can on street' activities listed should be exempt (not parking events, what do you think?) then please go to the Annexes at the end of the PAS Code and find the one about Exempt Vehicles and state what other activity you think should be added to the exempt list.  

If you do nothing else, please comment on:

- the amount of the parking charge levels

- the annexes at the end of the PAS (reading through the whole thing takes hours so if you have nothing to say about the definitions, for example, then skip to more vital points and the annex tables at the end.

- the bit about debt collectors and whether you think PPCs should be allowed to add 'costs' a second time, for the letters that are already within the rationale of the 'parking charge' sum...hmmm...

Responses into the PAS 232 and MHCLG framework documents are not completely straightforward:

On the MHCLG response, you have to answer the questions on a 1-5 scale from strongly agree to strongly disagree, and then put some commentary. No way to upload documents or alternatives but this doesn't take long.

 On the PAS 232, you have to click on each clause and sub-clause to put your comments, and a suggested rewording of their draft.  You can see comments which other people have written!   But, when you click ‘submit’, a message pops up to say your comments have been received, but that only applies to the particular clause you have just addressed.  

You have to go back up and find the next section, then the next...

You have to click ‘submit’ separately for each individual clause response.  Some people will be caught out by this but can revisit it and add further responses up to 12 October.

 

Things to think about:

A Speeding fine is £100.  A Local Authority lower rate parking penalty is £50.  Which do you think a private PCN should be like or do you think it should be something different?  

Do you think if all payment methods are not functioning that PPC can 'fine' you?

Do you think the examples mentioned in the cover letter are right and need adding to the Annex?

etc. etc.

 

thewire12

KeithP said:

I have now looked at the coach park's website -

Lots of pictures of that coach park opposite The Leach Pottery on their website.

However, the wording on their site says the coach park is now out of town, at the St Ives RFC.

Clearly what was the coach park has been infested by PE, and GSV has no images of that.

That's correct Keith, it's now a PE car park not the coach car park.

thewire12

Coupon-mad said:

We need the OP to read the NEWBIES thread and tell us if this is a GOLDEN TICKET as per the image there in the 3rd post.

The back of my PCN does mention the POFA act. Unfortunately during my first appeal to PE I identified as the driver, before coming here and realising I shouldn't have done that.

Redx

If they complied with POFA then it does not matter if you have revealed that you were driving , a keeper can be deemed responsible and liable under POFA

It's when they have failed POFA that it can be important , so lesson learned for the future , no blabbing , like in this airport thread

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6088655/county-court-claim-form-from-vehicle-control-services-for-robin-hood-airport-breach-of-contract/p1

APearson1995

The same thing has happened to me at the same car park. I stopped for 10minutes as it was pouring down, spent 5 minutes waiting for the rain to stop, another five minutes walking over to see the prices and then promptly leaving! I discussed this with what I thought was a car park attendant advertising the car park. 

zhonguonuren

Would it help if I go and take some photos of the signs?  

Sorry for the hassle OP - hope it hasn’t put you off visiting Cornwall.