NHS Covid App - Disappearing Alert

Grumpy_chap

But, if you get the message, it still means 2 weeks in a bunker?

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Grumpy_chap said:

But, if you get the message, it still means 2 weeks in a bunker?

In theory.  Of course, they don't have any way of knowing that you have been told to self-isolate by the app so...

gettingtheresometime

Yahoo_Mail said:

Grumpy_chap said:

OK, so I walk past someone who put in the App they have Coronavirus (except that data entry is entirely optional?) then I get sent a message that I could dies so need to spend 2 weeks in the bunker?

They can't just say "I have Coronavirus."  They need to enter a unique code they receive if they take an official test and receive a positive result.  You can't troll people by labelling yourself as infected and walking through London.

And this world beating app doesn't recognise positive results if they were done in nhs hospitals & by phe.

and how much did we pay for this again?

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gettingtheresometime said:

Yahoo_Mail said:

Grumpy_chap said:

OK, so I walk past someone who put in the App they have Coronavirus (except that data entry is entirely optional?) then I get sent a message that I could dies so need to spend 2 weeks in the bunker?

They can't just say "I have Coronavirus."  They need to enter a unique code they receive if they take an official test and receive a positive result.  You can't troll people by labelling yourself as infected and walking through London.

And this world beating app doesn't recognise positive results if they were done in nhs hospitals & by phe.

and how much did we pay for this again?

Seems to be less of an issue with the app, and more of an issue with the labs that process those results not being given the equipment/software to spit out the codes.

gettingtheresometime

Yahoo_Mail said:

gettingtheresometime said:

Yahoo_Mail said:

Grumpy_chap said:

OK, so I walk past someone who put in the App they have Coronavirus (except that data entry is entirely optional?) then I get sent a message that I could dies so need to spend 2 weeks in the bunker?

They can't just say "I have Coronavirus."  They need to enter a unique code they receive if they take an official test and receive a positive result.  You can't troll people by labelling yourself as infected and walking through London.

And this world beating app doesn't recognise positive results if they were done in nhs hospitals & by phe.

and how much did we pay for this again?

Seems to be less of an issue with the app, and more of an issue with the labs that process those results not being given the equipment/software to spit out the codes.

Whatever the reason it does make you wonder if the people running the show have anything between their ears.

68ComebackSpecial

Grumpy_chap said:

But, if you get the message, it still means 2 weeks in a bunker?

Discussing the app on Radio 5 on Thursday and the upshot was that if you choose to ignore it and not isolate/ get tested then there's no comeback because there's nothing to identify you.

The_Green_Hornet

daveyjp said:

England uses a Serco app, not an NHS one,

A Serco app which uses the Google/Apple Exposure Notifications System which runs on mobile phones built by Apple, Google, Samsung and a multitude of other private companies.

If only the NHS could do it all.

Grumpy_chap

Presumably, if you go on a train or tube or bus, you are almost certain to get the "isolate" message?

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Grumpy_chap said:

Presumably, if you go on a train or tube or bus, you are almost certain to get the "isolate" message?

"Almost certain"?  I wouldn't say so no.  It'd have to be a really big bus with a hell of a lot of people on it that you walked past on your journey for you to statistically come across someone with Coronavirus.

If you really don't want to get the message, turn your phone off when you get on a bus or you could even turn exposure notifications off which will just delete all the exposure data anyway.  In fact, just disabling Bluetooth should be enough and then you can still take phone calls and browse the internet.  But as has been said twice now, nobody will know you were told to anyway, so I'm not sure why you're so fixated with "getting the message"

silvercar

So even if the positive test could be entered on the app. How would the app know, if I was outside and masked or inside with no mask? How would the app know if I was by my phone? Or if I was in my car on someone's drive rather than near them? Or if my phone was in a gym locker next to someone else's phone in their locker, but in person we were 20metres apart?