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Ariel mast in neighbouring garden

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  • Farway
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    There was a similar installation near here
    It had been erected without planning & owner was compelled to remove it
    They moved house soon after so I assume they failed to get permission once applied for and only option would have been move house to continue the hobby

    Check if permission was granted, it may well not have been
    Eight out of ten owners who expressed a preference said their cats preferred other peoples gardens
  • qball_999 said:
    Hi all
    hopfully someone can assist. A neighbour has erected an Ariel that is over 20 meters high and 7 meters in width at the top. It actually protrudes over the next garden. Can anyone advise on what the legality is of this and whether planning permission is needed. Who do I speak to to find out and whether there are any health ramifications for this type of Ariel. 

    Appreciate any responses 
    Do you actually have a problem with it, you didn't say.
    The chances of interference are very slim, and as stated before, are more likely to be the fault of the equipment being interfered with than the radio amateur installation. However, if there is any interference, it is worth speaking to the amateur concerned, he will almost certainly be willing to listen and double check his equipment, and probably advise or offer to help solve any problems that may not be his.
    Health risks don't exist on that frequency and power. Even if he is using above the set limit, at that height it will have no adverse health risks.
    As for falling, if the wind gets strong enough to damage it, you are more likely to be injured by falling roof tiles or flying fence panels/sheds.
    Many such installations overhang neighbouring properties, UK gardens are generally small, so it is unavoidable with an installation like that. That does not mean it does not have planning permission.

    I'm really interested to know if the OP has a genuine concern, and if so what it is, then more advice could be available.

    Of course, complaining for the sake of complaining is not going to be productive in the long run, nor will it lead to a good outcome for all concerned.



  • Why worry about what your neighbours are doing?  It is simply a Yagi antenna, most likely for amateur radio communications. 
    It is a hobby that does not effect anyone detrimentally.
    Do you drive a car and if you do then you will be most likely causing far more damage to peoples lives and health than this person is. 
    Why can't people just get on with their lives and leave others alone -  my guess is jealousy because you wouldn't know how to operate the equipment yourself.  Personally I would not have this type of equipment in my garden, because of this very issue - nosey people who like to destroy others pleasure for not reason whatsoever. 
    Just get on with your life and leave others to get on with theirs would be my advice, for gods sake get a life!
  • GS..
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    "I'm really interested to know if the OP has a genuine concern, and if so what it is"
    If a human being sees this absolute monstrosity appear in a neighbouring garden and had no concern I would suggest they see a doctor.
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  • neilmcl
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    edited 23 September 2020 at 12:04PM
    yupiteru said:
    Why worry about what your neighbours are doing?  It is simply a Yagi antenna, most likely for amateur radio communications. 
    It is a hobby that does not effect anyone detrimentally.
    Do you drive a car and if you do then you will be most likely causing far more damage to peoples lives and health than this person is. 
    Why can't people just get on with their lives and leave others alone -  my guess is jealousy because you wouldn't know how to operate the equipment yourself.  Personally I would not have this type of equipment in my garden, because of this very issue - nosey people who like to destroy others pleasure for not reason whatsoever. 
    Just get on with your life and leave others to get on with theirs would be my advice, for gods sake get a life!
    Well the fact that such things require planning permission in the first place would suggest that it can have detrimental affects on neighbours who want to be able to enjoy their gardens without having to look at such a monstrosity.

    You're clearly not a homeowner.
  • GS..
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    If this monstrosity appeared in my neighbouring garden and devalued all neighbouring properties by 10 x £1000s I would first ask the neighbors to remove it, or lodge a complaint, or rip it down and shove it through their letterbox. What a total eye sore. I wouldn't give a monkeys about the "signal disturbance"
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  • There are no health issues, don't believe unscientific conspiracy theories about radio waves, they're all made up by people who don't understand science
    Touch or stand very close to an HF aerial whilst it's transmitting then come back and say there's no health issues from radio waves.
    Being electrocuted has nothing to do with radio waves.
    It's nothing to do with electrocution. It's an RF (radio frequency) burn that can result from being in close proximity to a transmitting HF radio antenna.
    I know that you have to be very close to the aerial or to a badly shielded feeder coax to be affected but I was simply pointing out that it can happen.
  • I wonder what is seen when sitting in the gardens there? It doesn't seem like it is attractive buildings and green fields, and any
    immediate neighbours will see a row of terraced houses of questionable beauty when looking in the direction of the antenna from their gardens.
    Unless they spend their time looking at the sky, it won't have a huge visual impact when looking at their gardens.
    I also doubt that those properties are going to be devalued by tens of thousands of pounds by the antena, it would depend a lot on what else is in the neighbourhood.
    There are lots of things that are ugly around here, but you have to look at them to see how ugly they are, there are lots of annoyances as well. When I can live in the middle of a 10 acre plot, then I won't have to put up with them.

    I'm not saying there aren't points against it, or the points raised are invalid, but in some posts the points seem to be exaggerated by drama queens, and are not balanced views.
  • forgotmyname
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    Radio Antenna where?   I only see a bird table, its that size due to the current spacing requirements to keep our feathered
    friends safe. Its that tall to keep them away from the local cats who have won Gold Medals at pole vaulting.

    :)

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