CEL County Court Defence

SportHorse

Redx said:

why not do both ? simplesI 

I will! Thank you

Coupon-mad

Have you done the consultations yet? 

I have further info to help people, and have copied the questions to the MHCLG one, below:

An urgent task – deadline approaching in about ten days:

Please now make a real difference because not enough people have yet, and time is running out. 

The Government is consulting for just a few more days, about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework intended to rein in the rogue parking firms. 

Does it go far enough?  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation (two separate consultation documents).

HOW TO DO THE SUBMISSIONS:

BSI PAS 232 – COMMENTING ON THE CODE OF PRACTICE AS DRAFTED:

1.    You will need to register then log in, to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker.  

 

2.    Register, log into the BSI page, and download & read the cover letter here:

https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

 

3.    Read the cover letter again and note the suggested extra questions... if you agree that, say, the 'loading/unloading and dropping off, asking for directions, and disabled people parking on double yellows as they can on street' activities listed should be exempt (not parking events, what do you think?) then please go to the Annexes at the end of the PAS Code and find the one about Exempt Vehicles and state what other activity you think should be added to the exempt list. 

 

4.    Download the PAS itself and start commenting on what you wish to say something about.  Quick links to each section appear on the left of your page. 

 

You don’t have to comment on everything, e.g. you might want to skip the definitions and focus on later sections, and certainly look at the Annex tables at the end that show things like consideration & grace periods and exemptions.

 

5.    Submit comments when you are happy with them. Don’t just ‘SAVE’ and forget!

 

THAT IS HALF THE JOB DONE!

THE MHCLG CONSULTATION IS EASIER AS IT IS JUST A LIST OF QUESTIONS. 

 

6.    You can do it first if preferred or pushed for time:

https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=EGg0v32c3kOociSi7zmVqAVPfAOtwRxLhHRwQ610oElUMzhQSVo0WUQ4SERVSEZaUU9DTUhFQ1VMUy4u

If your answers exceed 4000 characters (approx. 500 words to a single question or 16000 words (approx. 2500 words) for all the questions below, you can email your answers to parking@communities.gov.uk as long as you state who you are.

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU WILL SEE, FOR RESPONSES TO THE FRAMEWORK:

 Q1 Do you agree or disagree that members of APAs should be required to use a single appeals service appointed by the Secretary of State?

Strongly agree/Somewhat agree/Neither agree nor disagree/Somewhat disagree/Strongly disagree

 

Q1.1 Please explain your answer

(free text)

 

 

Q2 Please provide any other feedback on the determination of appeals, including the funding model and features that an appeal service should offer e.g. telephone or in-person hearings, the ability to submit evidence online

(free text)

 

Q3 Please provide any comments you have on the proposal to enforce the Code by combining the ATA’s existing audit procedures with additional safeguards.

(free text)

 

Q4 Please outline any alternative means by which the Code could be monitored and enforced. You may wish to cite evidence from other regulatory frameworks which are relevant.

(free text)

 

Q5 Please provide any feedback you have on the proposed governance arrangements for monitoring the new Code of Practice

(free text)

 

Q6 Which parking charge system is most appropriate for private parking?

 a) the Three-tiered system

 b) Mirroring the Local Authority system

(free text)

 

 Q6.1 Please explain your answer. You may, for example, wish to make reference to other deterrent frameworks (for example, for railway tickets or traffic violations)

(free text)

 

 

Q7 What level of discount is appropriate:

40% as is currently offered in private parking and suggested in the three-tiered system, or

50% as is offered in Local Authority parking?

a) 40%

b) 50%

 

Q7.1 Please explain your answer, including whether the discount should be set at a different level

(free text)

 

 

 Q8 How should the level of parking charges be set and how should the levels be revised in future?

(free text)

 

 

Q9 Do you agree or disagree in principle with the idea of the Appeals Charter?

Agree/Disagree

 

Q9.1 Please explain your answer

(free text)

 

 

Q10 Do you agree or not that the examples given in the Appeals Charter are fair and appropriate? Agree/Disagree

 

Q10.1 Please explain your answer.

You may wish, for example, to suggest additional cases to be covered in an Appeals Charter or query existing examples.

(free text)

 

Q11 Do you agree or disagree that the parking industry should contribute towards the cost of the regulation?

Agree/Disagree

 

Q11.1 Please explain your answer.

(free text)

 

YOU CAN INSTEAD GIVE MORE CONCISE ANSWERS ONLINE, USING THE MHCLG PAGE LINK.

Don’t forget that answering these questions is the easier bit…

Looking at the BSI PAS (the draft code of practice itself) involves logging in and submitting comments again, and again and again and takes more time!

 

Le_Kirk

These have ben reported to work also: -

Legal3@ce-service.co.uk

dataprotectionofficer@ce-service.co.uk

beamerguy

You realise you are dealing with at least one ex-Wonga person on the  'legal team' at CEL?!  

Shows their level.

This did make me smile, Wonga, the senders of fake legal letters, a mega fine, then they went bust ??

WHAT CHANCE FOR CEL ?   HA

 

SportHorse

On the DQ I requested Berwick Upon Tweed court for the hearing as nearest to Scotland where son is working.  CCBC acknowledged 19th October,  saying allocation had been transferred to Newcastle-upon-Tyne for allocation.  15th November, received Notice of Transfer of Proceeding advising the claim had been transferred to Nottingham.  25th November, District Judge in Nottingham transferred the claim to Claimant Home Court in Liverpool as it has no connection to Nottingham.  I feel like this is a big blow, surely it benefits CEL to have the hearing on their doorstep.  What was the point of asking which court I preferred?  Is it worth contesting or is Judge's word final?
Also I requested a SAR from CEL in September and they haven't sent me anything.  Is this common with CEL?  I will request again but are they required to reveal all details they have or can they just ignore with no consequences.
Feels like everything is going in CEL's favour at the moment.  

Redx

Request the SAR again giving 7 days to reply and remind them of the date and original request email too , attaching a copy of it plus a copy of the claim form too

The GDPR makes it mandatory , the law , not optional

nosferatu1001

Point out to the local court that as you are a consumer, the hearing MIST be at YOUR choice of court. This is a mistake n allocation 

look up the cprs 

SportHorse

nosferatu1001 said:

Point out to the local court that as you are a consumer, the hearing MIST be at YOUR choice of court. This is a mistake n allocation 

look up the cprs 

When you say local court do you mean Liverpool, where the claim has been ordered to be heard by the Judge in Nottingham?

nosferatu1001

I mean court local to you. Your choice. Not the claimants. Yours. 

Quote the CPR at them 

SportHorse

nosferatu1001 said:

I mean court local to you. Your choice. Not the claimants. Yours. 

Quote the CPR at them 

Oh, I see, so I need to speak to Berwick Upon Tweed Court then.  Thank you very much, I will get on to them on Monday.