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CEL County Court Defence

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  • Redx
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    edited 2 October 2020 at 4:12PM
    Different systems , this is all happening in England so it will cost him to contest jurisdiction , look it up on MCOL

    Chances are it will be a telephone hearing or video hearing , they have phones and the internet in Scotland , plus there is the unwise option of a hearing on papers

    Plus he may not be in Scotland next year anyway !
  • nosferatu1001
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    Too late to contest Red. That has to be done within 14 days of ticking the "contest" box on MCOL. Far far too late now
    Must be an England and WAles court. OP you realise if this is face to face he MUST turn up? You cannot represent him solo. 
  • Too late to contest Red. That has to be done within 14 days of ticking the "contest" box on MCOL. Far far too late now
    Must be an England and WAles court. OP you realise if this is face to face he MUST turn up? You cannot represent him solo. 
    Thank you for your reply, yes, I know he has to be there and defend himself.  It will mean him flying home if the courts are open for business so was just wondering if Scottish Courts were an option.  Didn't think they would be but thought I would ask.
  • KeithP
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    Are Berwick or Carlisle County Courts an easier option for him?
  • KeithP said:
    Are Berwick or Carlisle County Courts an easier option for him?
    Excellent! Thank you! That's a 90 minute drive, brilliant!
  • One last question, emailing CEL with a copy of the DQ. There is an email address on the back of the PCN for their office, office@ce-service.co.uk.   Is that sufficient or is there a specific email address to send these things to.
  • Redx
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    edited 2 October 2020 at 7:09PM
    their details should be as claimant on the original claim form, including contact details

    plus on any emails they sent to the defendant too
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 2 October 2020 at 7:17PM


    You realise you are dealing with at least one ex-Wonga person on the  'legal team' at CEL?!  Shows their level.

     

    PLEASE DO THIS TO CHANGE THE WAY THE PARKING INDUSTRY WORK:


    An urgent task – deadline approaching in about ten days:

    Please now make a real difference because not enough people have yet, and time is running out.  


    The Government is consulting for just a few more days, about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework intended to rein in the rogue parking firms. 

    Does it go far enough?  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation (two separate consultation documents).

    HOW TO DO THE SUBMISSIONS:

    BSI PAS 232 – COMMENTING ON THE CODE OF PRACTICE AS DRAFTED:

    1.    You will need to register then log in, to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker.  

     

    2.    Register, log into the BSI page, and download & read the cover letter here:

    https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

     

    3.    Read the cover letter again and note the suggested extra questions... if you agree that, say, the 'loading/unloading and dropping off, asking for directions, and disabled people parking on double yellows as they can on street' activities listed should be exempt (not parking events, what do you think?) then please go to the Annexes at the end of the PAS Code and find the one about Exempt Vehicles and state what other activity you think should be added to the exempt list. 

     

    4.    Download the PAS itself and start commenting on what you wish to say something about.  Quick links to each section appear on the left of your page. 

     

    You don’t have to comment on everything, e.g. you might want to skip the definitions and focus on later sections, and certainly look at the Annex tables at the end that show things like consideration & grace periods and exemptions.

     

    5.    Submit comments when you are happy with them. Don’t just ‘SAVE’ and forget!

     

    THAT IS HALF THE JOB DONE!

    THE MHCLG CONSULTATION IS EASIER AS IT IS JUST A LIST OF QUESTIONS. 

     

    6.    You can do it first if preferred or pushed for time:

    https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=EGg0v32c3kOociSi7zmVqAVPfAOtwRxLhHRwQ610oElUMzhQSVo0WUQ4SERVSEZaUU9DTUhFQ1VMUy4u

    If your answers exceed 4000 characters (approx. 500 words to a single question or 16000 words (approx. 2500 words) for all the questions below, you can email your answers to parking@communities.gov.uk as long as you state who you are.

    THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU WILL SEE, FOR RESPONSES TO THE FRAMEWORK:

     

    Q1 Do you agree or disagree that members of APAs should be required to use a single appeals service appointed by the Secretary of State?

    Strongly agree/Somewhat agree/Neither agree nor disagree/Somewhat disagree/Strongly disagree

     

    Q1.1 Please explain your answer

    (free text)

     

     

    Q2 Please provide any other feedback on the determination of appeals, including the funding model and features that an appeal service should offer e.g. telephone or in-person hearings, the ability to submit evidence online

    (free text)

     

    Q3 Please provide any comments you have on the proposal to enforce the Code by combining the ATA’s existing audit procedures with additional safeguards.

    (free text)

     

    Q4 Please outline any alternative means by which the Code could be monitored and enforced. You may wish to cite evidence from other regulatory frameworks which are relevant.

    (free text)

     

    Q5 Please provide any feedback you have on the proposed governance arrangements for monitoring the new Code of Practice

    (free text)

     

    Q6 Which parking charge system is most appropriate for private parking?

     a) the Three-tiered system

     b) Mirroring the Local Authority system

    (free text)

     

     Q6.1 Please explain your answer. You may, for example, wish to make reference to other deterrent frameworks (for example, for railway tickets or traffic violations)

    (free text)

     

     

    Q7 What level of discount is appropriate:

    40% as is currently offered in private parking and suggested in the three-tiered system, or

    50% as is offered in Local Authority parking?

    a) 40%

    b) 50%

     

    Q7.1 Please explain your answer, including whether the discount should be set at a different level

    (free text)

     

     

     Q8 How should the level of parking charges be set and how should the levels be revised in future?

    (free text)

     

     

    Q9 Do you agree or disagree in principle with the idea of the Appeals Charter?

    Agree/Disagree

     

    Q9.1 Please explain your answer

    (free text)

     

     

    Q10 Do you agree or not that the examples given in the Appeals Charter are fair and appropriate? Agree/Disagree

     

    Q10.1 Please explain your answer.

    You may wish, for example, to suggest additional cases to be covered in an Appeals Charter or query existing examples.

    (free text)

     

    Q11 Do you agree or disagree that the parking industry should contribute towards the cost of the regulation?

    Agree/Disagree

     

    Q11.1 Please explain your answer.

    (free text)

     

    YOU CAN INSTEAD GIVE MORE CONCISE ANSWERS ONLINE, USING THE MHCLG PAGE LINK.

    Don’t forget that answering these questions is the easier bit…

    Looking at the BSI PAS (the draft code of practice itself) involves logging in and submitting comments again, and again and again and takes more time!

     


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  • Redx said:
    their details should be as claimant on the original claim form, including contact details

    plus on any emails they sent to the defendant too
    It's just an address on the Claim Form, never received any emails from them.  Should I post it then.  All advice says email?
  • Redx
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    why not do both ? simples
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