TV licensing

Cornucopia

Big24fan said:

Interesting if we need a tv license as now have sky glass that’s is all streaming from the net and have no longer got a dish and no tv Ariel connection. We don’t watch iplayer much and can stop watching it if it saves £159 a year , and don’t watch live tv ie from the planner and can’t record . We mostly watch Netflix and prime and other onDemand stuff like sky cinema. Do we need a tv license ? I think if you had sky for 20+ years and not used free view for most of that we shouldn’t have needed on them too for all them years ! Thanks 

You definitely needed a Licence when you had old school Sky.

As for Sky Glass, if it operates solely by streaming then that makes it much the same as Now (TV).   And you only need a Licence for that if you stream the scheduled broadcast channels.

Big24fan

Ok thanks so if we dont watch iplayer and don’t watch stuff on the guide ie streamed live we dont need a tv license ?  Be interested to see anyone thats Got glass that’s cancelled there license and how they get on ! 

Cornucopia

Big24fan said:

Ok thanks so if we dont watch iplayer and don’t watch stuff on the guide ie streamed live we dont need a tv license ?  Be interested to see anyone thats Got glass that’s cancelled there license and how they get on ! 

In theory.   I'm not sure I'd recommend Sky Glass for being Legally Licence Free, though, over other alternatives.

Big24fan

Ok after a few software updates over the last 4-6 weeks the glass Is quite a good package to replace our 7 year old main tv for only £21 a month for a 65 inch qled tv with atoms sound bar and only one item on the wall with included wall bracket. so we’re quite happy with the glass now picture seems to look good with a few tweaks and sounds ok as a package it’s a decent system and for people that want to update there main tv or can’t have a dish its a decent option.

cx6

Not sure what would replace 'live' for utmost clarity.

'Broadcast' might do but I think that has connotations of 'over the air' whereas watching  live TV via internet also needs a licence.

Probably 'scheduled' as previously posted is a good word, but it's not perfect.

Maybe it could be switched around - you don't need a licence if you only watch on-demand programmes.

Cuandur

Big24fan said:

Interesting if we need a tv license as now have sky glass that’s is all streaming from the net and have no longer got a dish and no tv Ariel connection. We don’t watch iplayer much and can stop watching it if it saves £159 a year , and don’t watch live tv ie from the planner and can’t record . We mostly watch Netflix and prime and other onDemand stuff like sky cinema. Do we need a tv license ? I think if you had sky for 20+ years and not used free view for most of that we shouldn’t have needed on them too for all them years ! Thanks 

Hi, I'm having similar thoughts about Sky TV and license.

I have Sky Glass, nearly everything I watch is from my Playlist and/or Streaming. I do use iPlayer but ONLY to catch-up NEVER live on the player. However I do watch some "live" tv (mainly news).

My main question is since this Sky Glass TV is not connected to any external Coaxial Aerial or Satellite dish and only connected to broadband therefore all programs whether "live" or "playlist" are downloaded or streamed through my fibre broadband and this TV does NOT record anything only stream or catch up. Is there still a requirement for my TV license.

Also as a point of interest. What actually is the defenition of "Live" TV? As stated all programs/data etc are sent through broadband and I also believe that this has a slight lag time/delay and therefore not actually live (in my opinion), so again does this then warrant paying for the license?

Cornucopia

Cuandur said:

Hi, I'm having similar thoughts about Sky TV and license.

I have Sky Glass, nearly everything I watch is from my Playlist and/or Streaming. I do use iPlayer but ONLY to catch-up NEVER live on the player. However I do watch some "live" tv (mainly news).

ANY use of iPlayer to access BBC TV content requires a TV Licence.   

Cuandur said:

Also as a point of interest. What actually is the defenition of "Live" TV? As stated all programs/data etc are sent through broadband and I also believe that this has a slight lag time/delay and therefore not actually live (in my opinion), so again does this then warrant paying for the license?

The term "live" is misleading (blame BBC/TV Licensing for that).   What they mean is scheduled TV Broadcasts, that are transmitted via traditional means (Satellite, Terrestrial, Cable TV) AND the same linear channels when they are live streamed over the Internet.

Minor transmission delays are irrelevant and the legislation specifically includes them within the Licence requirement.

MSE has a good article here that covers the detail:  https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/broadband-and-tv/tv-licence/