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SDP and daughter going to Uni
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SDP is payable if you receive a qualifying disability benefit (such as the Daily Living part of PIP) and are treated as living alone (which means without other adults) unless they too get a disability benefits and nobody claims Carer's Allowance or the carer element of UC for looking after you.willowtreemum said:On what grounds is SDP paid and why would I lose it if my daughter stays at home ?
You met these criteria while your daughter was a dependant child. Now she is an independent adult you do not.
This is a common issue.Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.1 -
Thankyou for taking the time to explain this. I feel that the system in regards to this is a little unfair but I this is a common problem.calcotti said:
SDP is payable if you receive a qualifying disability benefit (such as the Daily Living part of PIP) and are treated as living alone (which means without other adults) unless they too get a disability benefits and nobody claims Carer's Allowance or the carer element of UC for looking after you.willowtreemum said:On what grounds is SDP paid and why would I lose it if my daughter stays at home ?
You met these criteria while your daughter was a dependant child. Now she is an independent adult you do not.
This is a common issue.
She has Autism but was failed with the local health authority as to a diagnosis so without one it would be pointless trying to apply for PIP for her. I tried years ago and was turned down and I wasnt well enough myself to challenge it.This is another reason why Im concerned for her moving forward.0 -
Ok thankyou!poppy12345 said:willowtreemum said:On what grounds is SDP paid and why would I lose it if my daughter stays at home ?Again, this was all covered in your previous thread. She's no longer classed as a dependant and part of the criteria is that you live alone, or classed as living alone. If she claimed a qualifying disability benefit then you could continue to recieve it.It doens't matter how many times you ask, the advice will remain the same.Edit because now i'm really confused, you've now started commenting on your other thread, so you have 2 threads with exactly the same questions.
No need to be short though.
Im sorry for any confusion, I dont retain information well and have short term memory problems, apologies!0 -
The reason is that PIP is intended to help with the extra cost of long term health conditions. The old style benefits then consider that for somebody not living with other adults there may also be further additional costs and the SDP is included in means tested benefits to help with this. If they have other adult family members it is considered that these additional costs can be mitigated by the help those other adults can provide. (At least I think that's the reasoning.)willowtreemum said:
,,I feel that the system in regards to this is a little unfair ..calcotti said: SDP is payable if you receive a qualifying disability benefit (such as the Daily Living part of PIP) and are treated as living alone (which means without other adults) unless they too get a disability benefits and nobody claims Carer's Allowance or the carer element of UC for looking after you.You met these criteria while your daughter was a dependant child. Now she is an independent adult you do not.
This is a common issue.Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.2 -
I wasn't being "short" with you, i'm sorry you thought otherwise. It does get confusing when starting multiple threads though.Regarding your daughter and a PIP claim, you don't need a diagnosis to claim PIP because it's not about that. It's about how your conditions affect you against the PIP descriptors. When did you last apply for PIP for her or was it DLA that you applied for? They are totally different benefits. If she was under 16 when you applied then it would have been DLA, not PIP. PIP is for those aged between 16 and state pension.1
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Sorry again, I simply couldnt gind the original post so thankyou for the link back to it.poppy12345 said:I wasn't being "short" with you, i'm sorry you thought otherwise. It does get confusing when starting multiple threads though.Regarding your daughter and a PIP claim, you don't need a diagnosis to claim PIP because it's not about that. It's about how your conditions affect you against the PIP descriptors. When did you last apply for PIP for her or was it DLA that you applied for? They are totally different benefits. If she was under 16 when you applied then it would have been DLA, not PIP. PIP is for those aged between 16 and state pension.It must have been DLA as she was 14 at the time. I'm not sure I would have the energy to reclaim for her now along with having to reclaim my own next year, I find the whole process very stressful as Im sure lots if people do but thankyou for the advice, very much appeeciated.0 -
Well that makes some sense although its hard to understand what has changed because for most people they would still pay for the care they need as opposed to asking an of age child to take care of those things.calcotti said:
The reason is that PIP is intended to help with the extra cost of long term health conditions. The old style benefits then consider that for somebody not living with other adults there may also be further additional costs and the SDP is included in means tested benefits to help with this. If they have other adult family members it is considered that these additional costs can be mitigated by the help those other adults can provide. (At least I think that's the reasoning.)willowtreemum said:
,,I feel that the system in regards to this is a little unfair ..calcotti said: SDP is payable if you receive a qualifying disability benefit (such as the Daily Living part of PIP) and are treated as living alone (which means without other adults) unless they too get a disability benefits and nobody claims Carer's Allowance or the carer element of UC for looking after you.You met these criteria while your daughter was a dependant child. Now she is an independent adult you do not.
This is a common issue.0 -
1 no one is expecting an of age child to pay for their parents carewillowtreemum said:
Well that makes some sense although its hard to understand what has changed because for most people they would still pay for the care they need as opposed to asking an of age child to take care of those things.calcotti said:
The reason is that PIP is intended to help with the extra cost of long term health conditions. The old style benefits then consider that for somebody not living with other adults there may also be further additional costs and the SDP is included in means tested benefits to help with this. If they have other adult family members it is considered that these additional costs can be mitigated by the help those other adults can provide. (At least I think that's the reasoning.)willowtreemum said:
,,I feel that the system in regards to this is a little unfair ..calcotti said: SDP is payable if you receive a qualifying disability benefit (such as the Daily Living part of PIP) and are treated as living alone (which means without other adults) unless they too get a disability benefits and nobody claims Carer's Allowance or the carer element of UC for looking after you.You met these criteria while your daughter was a dependant child. Now she is an independent adult you do not.
This is a common issue.
It's more about living in a household with another responsible adult.
It is inevitable that all children will become adults and so people claiming benefits need to take that into account and make provision0 -
Could I just add to this post that my daughter has now booked her accommodation for the duration of het University course and so will no longer be living at home for at least three years anyway.I assume from this I will keep my SDP but how will it affect the Bedroom Tax ? I have no way of knowing if she will return home after her course ends, I imagine not as her Grandparents have offered to buy her a property. She will of course be visiting me occasionally but as Im without a car at present, and she doesnt travel well on public transport, as previously mentioned due to her Autism, I think her visits home may be infrequent. How does this set of circumstances sit with HB entitlement ?
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willowtreemum said:Could I just add to this post that my daughter has now booked her accommodation for the duration of het University course and so will no longer be living at home for at least three years anyway.I assume from this I will keep my SDP but how will it affect the Bedroom Tax ? I have no way of knowing if she will return home after her course ends, I imagine not as her Grandparents have offered to buy her a property. She will of course be visiting me occasionally but as Im without a car at present, and she doesnt travel well on public transport, as previously mentioned due to her Autism, I think her visits home may be infrequent. How does this set of circumstances sit with HB entitlement ?
If you now have a spare bedroom and you're renting from social housing then the bedroom tax will apply to you, this means that your housing benefit will reduce by 14%. https://england.shelter.org.uk/housing_advice/benefits/how_to_deal_with_the_bedroom_taxIf you privately rent then you'll only be entitled to the 1 bedroom rate of local housing allowance. All changes must be reported.
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