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Advice needed please - LETTER BEFORE ACTION - Carflow -> UPDATE - County court claim form received

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  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    car flow issue a high number of claims in proportion to tickets issued
    Maybe they do and with a legal dept who is clueless about a letter before claim ... thinking it's 14 days where it should be 30 days ???  Well, so much for their so called legal dept

    And bragging they are cheaper than their competitors with the added fake admin charge, this is not a competition for whose dad is better than your dad.

    Is this a cheap joke shop ?
  • Hello everyone. I need your help again please.
    Carflow have gone to the county court and I received a claim form last Friday. I have 14 days to reply. 
    I have uploaded the particulars of the claim here:
    https://imgur.com/a/D2LbYRD
    The amount claimed is £120 for the fine and £25 for court fees.
    As I mentioned previously, I replied to their letter before action saying  they didn't follow practice direction. I wasn't provided with a copy of the contract between Carflow and the landlord, how the amounts were calculated was not included and I wasn't offered an alternative dispute resolution mechanism.
    Is it worth contesting the claim or should I just pay £145 to avoid the hassle? If I contest, what do I need to mention in my defence?
    Thanks in advance.
  • No you dont, you have way more than that and you know that because A) the form tells you what to do to getr more time and B) so does the newbies thread
    SO
    1) Tell us the date of issue
    2) Still not a fine and never has been. INVOICE
    3) Do the AOS 5 days on at earliest from the Date of Issue
    4) Go to the newbies thread and notice it has a template defence
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    edited 10 February 2021 at 12:59PM
    Is it worth contesting the claim or should I just pay £145 to avoid the hassle? 

    That surely depends on your wealth and your attitude towards scams.  read this

    https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists


    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • £120 isnt that bad for a court claim 

    at present and for god knows how much longer it looks like cases are going to be heard by phone , so no excesseve fees 
    they are not claiming solisitors costs 
    pay them now or make them work hard , spend money etc , no brainer 

    wind them up about there £20 
    you set yourself up for this by using a gym that used this company 

    last thought this happed feb 2020 and you mention lidl , was this at the period of mass panic buying with ques outside the doors of many supermarkets , if so then this should be mentioned on your paperwork and mentioned to the judge 
  • BrownTrout
    BrownTrout Posts: 2,298 Forumite
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    carflow/devere/AS Parking are companies that dont add on the full "£60 fake charge"
  • I thought the Bevis case established rules and regs on Admin fees ?

    £100 or in the case of bevis , was it £70 was deemed to include admin costs , which are after all part of running a fleacing service buisness 

    the company here are blatently saying £20 for admin fees , which at first glance go against the bevis ruling 
    we are not talking about DRP etc fake £60 to make it worthwile , or we will loose money come court time 

    we are talking a company that are adding on £20 not for debt collection , but for admin fees 

  • you can only abide to the readable part of a contract 
    I suspect that a person with 20/20 vision would struggle to find any wording that states "we add a £20 admin fee" 
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,411 Forumite
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    As you're moving forward towards a court hearing, do you have photographs of the signage? You need to photograph the sign locations around the car park, including at the entrance, and sufficiently close up in order for the details to be read. If the parking event was during the hours of darkness, some additional photos of the signs, taken in similar lighting conditions, without using flash. 

    If in the hours of darkness, do the signs have their own source of illumination?
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • "an administration fee" - unlawful
    Breach of CRA2015
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