Ex won't move out....

Angela_D_3

Lover_of_Lycra said:

Angela_D_3 said:

SpiderLegs said:

I want to know what @Angela_D_3 thinks the ‘correct’ process is in this case.

we know it starts with a pointless solicitors letter, but I’m not sure what benefit that has other than to give the ‘victim’ some idea that they are about to slung out.

The solicitors letter protects you from the occupation order.   No skin off my nose if you want to go around changing locks and man handling people but if it bites you on the !!!!!! you've lived by the sword and will die by it I guess.

Protects who from the occupation order?  You're talking total cobblers.  Even the information from Shelter Scotland that you copied and added your own rubbish in italics to at the bottom doesn't support what you are claiming.

It protects the OP from an occupation order and having yo pay her rent whilst sits legally resolved.  

Just because you shout lots and use rude words doesn’t make you right.  You are wrong.  

hazyjo

[Deleted User] said:

Hmmm, similar scenario here several years ago, my ex-partner/houseguest refused to move out, i sought legal advice and was told under no circumstances must i change the locks or do anything that would be confrontational.
The law taking my side was a 50-50 chance and Mediation was advised rather than allowing it to go to court.
It was not a good time, partner had everything to gain and i had everything to lose, it ended up with me having to give 50% of everything i had - me, successful self employed - him minimum wage scrounger.
Not happy and still angry - me that is.
OP, tread carefully and double risk assess everything.

Maybe this and Angela's old issue was when there was a "common law" relationship aspect. I know you used to have rights. No idea when it changed.

Not the case now.

[Deleted User]

Angela_D_3 said:

Lover_of_Lycra said:

Angela_D_3 said:

SpiderLegs said:

I want to know what @Angela_D_3 thinks the ‘correct’ process is in this case.

we know it starts with a pointless solicitors letter, but I’m not sure what benefit that has other than to give the ‘victim’ some idea that they are about to slung out.

The solicitors letter protects you from the occupation order.   No skin off my nose if you want to go around changing locks and man handling people but if it bites you on the !!!!!! you've lived by the sword and will die by it I guess.

Protects who from the occupation order?  You're talking total cobblers.  Even the information from Shelter Scotland that you copied and added your own rubbish in italics to at the bottom doesn't support what you are claiming.

It protects the OP from an occupation order and having yo pay her rent whilst sits legally resolved.  

Just because you shout lots and use rude words doesn’t make you right.  You are wrong.  

Shouting lots and using rude words?  Now you really are making things up.  I'm sure you mean well but you clearly do not know all the ins and outs of whatever situation you have previously witnessed and nothing, absolutely nothing, you have provided so far backs up any of your claims.  In fact even the Shelter Scotland link you provided doesn't support what you are saying.

[Deleted User]

Catsacor said:

Hmmm, similar scenario here several years ago, my ex-partner/houseguest refused to move out, i sought legal advice and was told under no circumstances must i change the locks or do anything that would be confrontational.
The law taking my side was a 50-50 chance and Mediation was advised rather than allowing it to go to court.
It was not a good time, partner had everything to gain and i had everything to lose, it ended up with me having to give 50% of everything i had - me, successful self employed - him minimum wage scrounger.
Not happy and still angry - me that is.
OP, tread carefully and double risk assess everything.

Were you a home owner and did your ex-partner contribute towards the mortgage?

Sistergold

MoneySeeker1 said:

Sistergold said:

The best way forward is to look for another rental property and move out! Most relationship when they don’t end well you just have to accept some loss in this case the rental property you love. You actually need to thank God you don’t own the house as that’s worse to deal with than trying to hold on to a rental property! Look for another place and tell her the move out date! 

Absolutely not!!

Why should OP - it is his property (albeit rented) and the agreement with the owner (landlord/lady or local Council or whatever) is with him and him alone. The OP has a loss anyway - of the emotional variety - ie it sounds like he got "used" by this girlfriend for free accommodation and free labour on her own house and that is loss enough  to know he was used like this by her.

I do understand what you mean by staying put. It just felt like this Ex really has been unfair on the OP and seems to me Ex is not planing to be reasonable any time soon. I just felt this Ex will not cooperate and this will drug on for a long time and OP will just be under stress? I just felt that to cut a long story short just give notice and everyone moves out and OP learns his lessons and does not allow long staying visitors again. Ex’s can be a pain and legal route can be a pain too. Sometimes it’s easier to just abandon ship? Ex is having a free ride and the longer this ride continues the better for the Ex. 

tom9980

Sistergold said:

MoneySeeker1 said:

Sistergold said:

The best way forward is to look for another rental property and move out! Most relationship when they don’t end well you just have to accept some loss in this case the rental property you love. You actually need to thank God you don’t own the house as that’s worse to deal with than trying to hold on to a rental property! Look for another place and tell her the move out date! 

Absolutely not!!

Why should OP - it is his property (albeit rented) and the agreement with the owner (landlord/lady or local Council or whatever) is with him and him alone. The OP has a loss anyway - of the emotional variety - ie it sounds like he got "used" by this girlfriend for free accommodation and free labour on her own house and that is loss enough  to know he was used like this by her.

I do understand what you mean by staying put. It just felt like this Ex really has been unfair on the OP and seems to me Ex is not planing to be reasonable any time soon. I just felt this Ex will not cooperate and this will drug on for a long time and OP will just be under stress? I just felt that to cut a long story short just give notice and everyone moves out and OP learns his lessons and does not allow long staying visitors again. Ex’s can be a pain and legal route can be a pain too. Sometimes it’s easier to just abandon ship? Ex is having a free ride and the longer this ride continues the better for the Ex. 

It's a terrible idea. He could move and she could stay, he is then liable for the rent until she leaves, which might well be never.

Comms69

[Deleted User] said:

Hmmm, similar scenario here several years ago, my ex-partner/houseguest refused to move out, i sought legal advice and was told under no circumstances must i change the locks or do anything that would be confrontational.
The law taking my side was a 50-50 chance and Mediation was advised rather than allowing it to go to court.
It was not a good time, partner had everything to gain and i had everything to lose, it ended up with me having to give 50% of everything i had - me, successful self employed - him minimum wage scrounger.
Not happy and still angry - me that is.
OP, tread carefully and double risk assess everything.

Who did you get that advice from???!!! 

Christ i've literally got a 101 operator sacked for less than this. I phoned up the police informing them i was changing the locks and there may be  BOP; operator said i cant do that, illegal, id be arrested. I complained; 2 weeks later her supervisor phoned me up and told me she'd been dismissed. 

You were screwed over by someone, and if it was a solicitor, i'd be taking this to the SRA.

Comms69

Angela_D_3 said:

Lover_of_Lycra said:

Angela_D_3 said:

SpiderLegs said:

I want to know what @Angela_D_3 thinks the ‘correct’ process is in this case.

we know it starts with a pointless solicitors letter, but I’m not sure what benefit that has other than to give the ‘victim’ some idea that they are about to slung out.

The solicitors letter protects you from the occupation order.   No skin off my nose if you want to go around changing locks and man handling people but if it bites you on the !!!!!! you've lived by the sword and will die by it I guess.

Protects who from the occupation order?  You're talking total cobblers.  Even the information from Shelter Scotland that you copied and added your own rubbish in italics to at the bottom doesn't support what you are claiming.

It protects the OP from an occupation order and having yo pay her rent whilst sits legally resolved.  

Just because you shout lots and use rude words doesn’t make you right.  You are wrong.  

So if i get a solicitor to write you a letter saying i'm moving in, and then i do, i'm protected from you kicking me out?... You seem to think solicitors letters are magic; they arent. They hold exactly zero weight. 

Jeepers_Creepers

SHE HAS HER OWN HOUSE!
SHE IS NOT ON THE TENANCY, NOT ON THE COUNCIL TAX BILL, NOT ON ANY UTILITIES!
SHE HAS CONTRIBUTED NEXT TO NOW'T! 
I'm suspect she isn't included in the contents insurance or in any other document in relation to this flat - broadband, phone, now't. 
Donewithnow, how many adults are down as living in this flat on your contents insurance? 

Angela_D_3

Comms69 said:

Angela_D_3 said:

Lover_of_Lycra said:

Angela_D_3 said:

SpiderLegs said:

I want to know what @Angela_D_3 thinks the ‘correct’ process is in this case.

we know it starts with a pointless solicitors letter, but I’m not sure what benefit that has other than to give the ‘victim’ some idea that they are about to slung out.

The solicitors letter protects you from the occupation order.   No skin off my nose if you want to go around changing locks and man handling people but if it bites you on the !!!!!! you've lived by the sword and will die by it I guess.

Protects who from the occupation order?  You're talking total cobblers.  Even the information from Shelter Scotland that you copied and added your own rubbish in italics to at the bottom doesn't support what you are claiming.

It protects the OP from an occupation order and having yo pay her rent whilst sits legally resolved.  

Just because you shout lots and use rude words doesn’t make you right.  You are wrong.  

So if i get a solicitor to write you a letter saying i'm moving in, and then i do, i'm protected from you kicking me out?... You seem to think solicitors letters are magic; they arent. They hold exactly zero weight. 

You're being  ridiculous, the circumstances you describe are nothing like those in the OP and nothing like those I'm advising on.  I've no doubt you intend to carry on being ridiculous, I see reporting me got you nowhere.
Solicitors letters hold a lot of weight with courts, they show willingness to resolve matters.