VCS Bristol Airport - LBC Stopping in a zone where stopping is prohibited

Coupon-mad

cathcartzigel said:

The post you referenced about the Hilton Hotel was posted on this thread but isn't related to my claim.  I stopped at the barrier to the short stay car park not to the hotel car park.  I've written to Bristol Airport twice but they will not take action.  

You mean someone posted it here on your thread yesterday then deleted it?  OK.

KeithP

Coupon-mad said:

cathcartzigel said:

The post you referenced about the Hilton Hotel was posted on this thread but isn't related to my claim.  I stopped at the barrier to the short stay car park not to the hotel car park.  I've written to Bristol Airport twice but they will not take action.  

You mean someone posted it here on your thread yesterday then deleted it?  OK.

No C-m. For some reason you quoted a hijacker's post from 1st October. 

nosferatu1001

Stopping at abarrier seems a normal thing to do...

cathcartzigel

nosferatu1001 said:

Stopping at abarrier seems a normal thing to do...

It seems pretty normal to everyone except VCS who are taking drivers to court for stopping at a barrier.  It's a frustrating waste of time for everyone.  

nosferatu1001

That would be a fairly strong point to make to the court, when pointing out -what eldse are you supposed to do at a barrier? Drive right on through it? How long to stop to read the signage at the barrier are you allowed? If you're not allowed to read the signage there, why do they place it there? and so on. 
Obv only talk abotu whats true but you can make it out to be ridiculous. 

Fruitcake

ginger_bread_man won his case. I suggest you have a look at his comments about the court hearing, especially the judge's findings, and use those words when you robustly reply to the LBC.
Complain again to the Airport owners. Spell out that the car in your case was in the same place as the one in g_m_m's case, which is outside the area that VCS have been contracted to operate. Quote their case number if it was given.
Add in that Airport Byelaws apply, therefore as vehicle keeper you cannot be held liable.
Ask them for the contact details of the person who will be attending court, pointing out that as principle they are liable for the actions of their contractor and you have the right to cross examine them.

You could look into a counter claim if you are up to it. You should certainly mention that you may make a counter claim if this is not cancelled.

There was another thread about a motorist who won their case at a different part of the same airport because again the car was outside the red line that VCS are authorised to scam, possibly the one who posted on your thread last year.

nosferatu1001

For a sum not less than £500, to focus their mind

cathcartzigel

Fruitcake said:

ginger_bread_man won his case. I suggest you have a look at his comments about the court hearing, especially the judge's findings, and use those words when you robustly reply to the LBC.
Complain again to the Airport owners. Spell out that the car in your case was in the same place as the one in g_m_m's case, which is outside the area that VCS have been contracted to operate. Quote their case number if it was given.
Add in that Airport Byelaws apply, therefore as vehicle keeper you cannot be held liable.
Ask them for the contact details of the person who will be attending court, pointing out that as principle they are liable for the actions of their contractor and you have the right to cross examine them.

You could look into a counter claim if you are up to it. You should certainly mention that you may make a counter claim if this is not cancelled.

There was another thread about a motorist who won their case at a different part of the same airport because again the car was outside the red line that VCS are authorised to scam, possibly the one who posted on your thread last year.

I've been keeping up to date with the very similar cases that VCS  have brought and lost against similar incidents at Bristol Airport.  I have written to the airport twice already but hit a brick wall.  I was aware of any Airport correspondence finding it's way to VCS so didn't want to be to open handed.  I  didn't think VCS would be beyond changing the map retrospectively too include the slip road up to the barrier.  This whole episode is making me slightly paranoid.  I do like the idea of asking Bristol Airport who will be attending court though, as that might be an effective way of concentrating their minds!

nosferatu1001

...and pointing out that, as they are the principal to the contract, harassment by their agent is their responsibilty, as is the breach of the DPA2018 in obtaining your details, and...
As such you woudl seek to include them in a Part 20 application as a co-defendant to your Counterclaim, should their agent VCS carry through its threat of filing a claim that is doomed to failure. 
Or they could act as a responsible principal and instruct their agent to cancel the ticket and apologise, and let you know what sanctions tehy will place on VCS for ticketing outside of the area contracted. You await their reply as it will inform you of the direction your complaint to the ICO about Bristol Airport (full company name) will take take

cathcartzigel

Thanks Fruitcake this is really helpful.