Online New Car Buying - ? Pre-Registered Car Con

Grumpy_chap

That link is about manufacturer policies for pre registration card, not the law.  The legal advice is about having the car registered to the buyer straight away.

I cannot advise the OP, as it is their decision to a large part.  One thing to be aware of is whether the car will be 69 or 70 reg.

sweetsand

Grumpy_chap said:

That link is about manufacturer policies for pre registration card, not the law.  The legal advice is about having the car registered to the buyer straight away.

I cannot advise the OP, as it is their decision to a large part.  One thing to be aware of is whether the car will be 69 or 70 reg.

You are the third person that is wrong or the link is wrong. The link clearly states it is a 'criminal offence.' So is the link fake, wrong or what??

JJ_Egan

Usual story re preregistration is dealer bonus  sales managers free holiday .For xxx number of cars sold in a period  .

AdrianC

The biggest functional difference here is going to be the VED.

If the first-payment VED is less than the £150 normal figure, then you don't get that - that gets paid by the broker, then promptly reclaimed on the keeper change. You pay the £150 normal figure.

Grumpy_chap

sweetsand said:

Grumpy_chap said:

That link is about manufacturer policies for pre registration card, not the law.  The legal advice is about having the car registered to the buyer straight away.

I cannot advise the OP, as it is their decision to a large part.  One thing to be aware of is whether the car will be 69 or 70 reg.

You are the third person that is wrong or the link is wrong. The link clearly states it is a 'criminal offence.' So is the link fake, wrong or what??

Please read the article you quote again.  The criminal offence is to have a car that is not registered to you at the time you collect it. 

 It is not a criminal offence just having a car on the dealer for one day then to sell as second hand.  That period is manufacturer policy.

waamo

sweetsand said:

Grumpy_chap said:

That link is about manufacturer policies for pre registration card, not the law.  The legal advice is about having the car registered to the buyer straight away.

I cannot advise the OP, as it is their decision to a large part.  One thing to be aware of is whether the car will be 69 or 70 reg.

You are the third person that is wrong or the link is wrong. The link clearly states it is a 'criminal offence.' So is the link fake, wrong or what??

If it's a criminal offence there will be an act of parliament making it so. Can you show the legislation that makes it a crime please?

Car_54

sweetsand said:

Grumpy_chap said:

That link is about manufacturer policies for pre registration card, not the law.  The legal advice is about having the car registered to the buyer straight away.

I cannot advise the OP, as it is their decision to a large part.  One thing to be aware of is whether the car will be 69 or 70 reg.

You are the third person that is wrong or the link is wrong. The link clearly states it is a 'criminal offence.' So is the link fake, wrong or what??

The link is wrong in a number of ways.

1. The legislation it relies upon says:

"A person is guilty of an offence if, on a public road or in a public place, he uses a vehicle ... in respect of which—

(a)the name and address of the keeper are not recorded in the register, or

(b)any of the particulars recorded in the register are incorrect."

There is nothing in law which says that the owner (or purchaser) has to be the registered keeper, or vice-versa. There are obvious disadvantages and indeed dangers in allowing the seller to remain RK, but it is not illegal.

2. Even if an offence were committed, the guilty party would not get a criminal record. That is utter nonsense.

3. And any such offence would incur a small fine, unlikely to "exceed the value of the initial saving".

George_Michael

sweetsand said:

You are the third person that is wrong or the link is wrong. The link clearly states it is a 'criminal offence.' So is the link fake, wrong or what??

The link is not wrong, in fact what it states is 100% correct.
It is your understanding of what it states that is wrong:

If your car is not registered to you at the time you collect it, you will be committing a criminal offence

What happens to that car regarding it's registration before you collect it is a different matter and if a dealership wishes to register that vehicle to themselves before putting it up for sale, this is perfectly legal and if you think otherwise, you should be able to use the following link to show the legislation that makes it illegal:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/

sweetsand

Grumpy_chap said:

sweetsand said:

Grumpy_chap said:

That link is about manufacturer policies for pre registration card, not the law.  The legal advice is about having the car registered to the buyer straight away.

I cannot advise the OP, as it is their decision to a large part.  One thing to be aware of is whether the car will be 69 or 70 reg.

You are the third person that is wrong or the link is wrong. The link clearly states it is a 'criminal offence.' So is the link fake, wrong or what??

Please read the article you quote again.  The criminal offence is to have a car that is not registered to you at the time you collect it. 

 It is not a criminal offence just having a car on the dealer for one day then to sell as second hand.  That period is manufacturer policy.

Grumpy_chap said:

sweetsand said:

Grumpy_chap said:

That link is about manufacturer policies for pre registration card, not the law.  The legal advice is about having the car registered to the buyer straight away.

I cannot advise the OP, as it is their decision to a large part.  One thing to be aware of is whether the car will be 69 or 70 reg.

You are the third person that is wrong or the link is wrong. The link clearly states it is a 'criminal offence.' So is the link fake, wrong or what??

Please read the article you quote again.  The criminal offence is to have a car that is not registered to you at the time you collect it. 

 It is not a criminal offence just having a car on the dealer for one day then to sell as second hand.  That period is manufacturer policy.

I have re-read the bit a couple of times and it clearly states as far as I understand it that it is a criminal offence to sell you the car  before the 90 days and not register to you and not allowed to sell a pre-reg car for 90 days. This is what it implys and if that is not the case then it should be re-worded.

Quote"i) A dealer registers cars to themselves at the end of the month to hit the sales target set by the manufacturer, and then sells them on 90 days later. When you buy one, it will be immediately re-registered to you. If we ever offer you a pre-registered car it will be one of these, and there are no legal problems for you in buying one, though you should take note of the disadvantages listed below.

(ii) A broker arranges for you to purchase a car from a dealer, and the dealer delivers you the car. But instead of registering your car to you, the car is registered to a company that has nothing to do with you, so that the broker can claim a fleet bonus from the manufacturer. These cars are not usually re-registered to you for 3-6 months. Note that a car registered to you “Care of” an unrelated company is not registered to you, it is registered to the unrelated company. You should always avoid these as you could be committing a criminal offence, end up being prosecuted, get a criminal record and lose money which exceeds the value of the initial saving. We never supply cars using this practice.

WHY?"

End of quote

waamo

sweetsand said:

waamo said:

sweetsand said:

Grumpy_chap said:

That link is about manufacturer policies for pre registration card, not the law.  The legal advice is about having the car registered to the buyer straight away.

I cannot advise the OP, as it is their decision to a large part.  One thing to be aware of is whether the car will be 69 or 70 reg.

You are the third person that is wrong or the link is wrong. The link clearly states it is a 'criminal offence.' So is the link fake, wrong or what??

If it's a criminal offence there will be an act of parliament making it so. Can you show the legislation that makes it a crime please?

Clearly states in the link that it is and that is good enough for me. If you are not happy with that, that is your perogative.

So you can't show the legislation then?