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macman said:

jryan74 said:

We are in the same position.  Due to fly 11/8/20 booked Oct 19 - if we travel no insurance and can't claim on insurance cause not cancelled.  Will cost as much as flights are now to re-book.  There will be many more like us.  I wouldn't know where to start but we should collectively fight this.  They will be making millions on others hard work.

How are Ryanair 'making millions' if you choose not to show for a seat you have booked? They'll save a bit on fuel load and that's it. There is nothing to 'fight'. The flight is available, you are choosing not to travel for reasons entirely outside of the carrier's control.

Thank you for your help and support.  

bradders1983

jryan74 said:

macman said:

jryan74 said:

We are in the same position.  Due to fly 11/8/20 booked Oct 19 - if we travel no insurance and can't claim on insurance cause not cancelled.  Will cost as much as flights are now to re-book.  There will be many more like us.  I wouldn't know where to start but we should collectively fight this.  They will be making millions on others hard work.

How are Ryanair 'making millions' if you choose not to show for a seat you have booked? They'll save a bit on fuel load and that's it. There is nothing to 'fight'. The flight is available, you are choosing not to travel for reasons entirely outside of the carrier's control.

Thank you for your help and support.  

Genuinely, what other help are you looking for? You have been told what the situation is. If you want to start a campaign yourself, nobody is stopping you. Maybe write to your MP.

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bradders1983 said:

jryan74 said:

macman said:

jryan74 said:

We are in the same position.  Due to fly 11/8/20 booked Oct 19 - if we travel no insurance and can't claim on insurance cause not cancelled.  Will cost as much as flights are now to re-book.  There will be many more like us.  I wouldn't know where to start but we should collectively fight this.  They will be making millions on others hard work.

How are Ryanair 'making millions' if you choose not to show for a seat you have booked? They'll save a bit on fuel load and that's it. There is nothing to 'fight'. The flight is available, you are choosing not to travel for reasons entirely outside of the carrier's control.

Thank you for your help and support.  

Genuinely, what other help are you looking for? You have been told what the situation is. If you want to start a campaign yourself, nobody is stopping you. Maybe write to your MP.

Thank you  all for responding and you help and support.

bradders1983

I would say "no problem" if I knew you weren't being sarcastic 😘

rossmcleod

I am in a similar position. I should have flown with them this weekend but the government advised against unnecessary travel to my intended destination country. Neither flight was cancelled. My insurance company has said that I should pursue this with Ryanair because current government advice is that the CMA (Competition and Markets Authority) expect a consumer to be offered a full refund where a consumer cancels, or is prevented from receiving any services, because Government public health measures mean they are not allowed to use the services.
If you Google the-coronavirus-covid-19-pandemic-consumer-contracts-cancellation-and-refunds it should take you to the appropriate page on the UK government site, with this under "The position in most cases" section.

bradders1983

FCO advice is NOT a government public health measure, and that is where the entire argument falls down.

Even if it was, the "measure" does not physically stop you going to the airport and catching the flight.

rossmcleod

It invalidates your travel insurance. You have to quarantine for 14 days upon your return to the UK.

bradders1983

And neither of those are Ryanairs problem. In addition the quarantine does not stop you using the flights, it would be your own choice not to do so = disinclination to travel

bagand96

To be honest the CMA has muddied the waters with it's very vague advice, which is not backed up by any legislation. 

Have another read of your policy wording specifically about cancellation and see if you have cover for cancellation due to FCO advice. 

If you do then go back to your travel insurance company and make a complaint if they still refuse to pay. 

Thrugelmir

jryan74 said:

We are in the same position.  Due to fly 11/8/20 booked Oct 19 - if we travel no insurance and can't claim on insurance cause not cancelled.  Will cost as much as flights are now to re-book.  There will be many more like us.  I wouldn't know where to start but we should collectively fight this.  They will be making millions on others hard work.

Second quarter loss of £167 million. Hardly a sustainable business model.