Furlough ..... My employee does not want to come back because it isn't worth the difference.

dunstonh

I find your tone that of a workplace BULLY and even your language “bu...ger” discourteous and offensive .

You claim to be 68 and have never heard of the term "silly buggers"?  

You accuse me of being a bully and your employee seems to be bullying you.  So, maybe you should just accept that being in business is not right for you.

 I have never in my life sworn at anyone or tried to belittle them. But I will add you must be a very unpleasant person.

Its nothing to do with being pleasant or unpleasant.  it is about running a business in a business-like manner.   You posted on a public forum about a relatively straightforward business issue but don't seem to be able or willing to take notice of what people are saying.  Instead, you seem to be interpreting words in a negative way and ignoring what is actually being said.

Seeing as you prefer to be wrapped up in cotton wool, what would you like us to tell you.  I am sure we can make things up make you feel comfortable.

onwards&upwards

Don’t dismiss people who are trying to help you just because you don’t like their turn of phrase!  

Nobody is questioning your integrity, if anything you sound too kind!  they are rightly telling you that if you give in to your employee and this falls foul of the rules, the consequences will be on you, not them. 

gettingtheresometime

alun4 said:

I am 68 though I don’t understand what my age has to do with my caring or sensitivity. 

I find your tone that of a workplace BULLY and even your language “bu...ger” discourteous and offensive . I have never in my life sworn at anyone or tried to belittle them. But I will add you must be a very unpleasant person.

I have to say that I didn't interpret the tone as being akin to work place bullying or the use of the word bu***ger as being offensive but as straight talking which it sounds you need.
I've never been a boss but I can't imagine a situation where I would basically dictate to any of my bosses (& I've had a fair few) when I would be attending work....and even more so if the boss has been as flexible as you say you've been.
At the end of the day, it's your business and it will be you that would have to deal with any fallout if you claim CVRS incorrectly - is she that good an employee that you're prepared  to risk that? 
I'd send her a text today reminding her that she's expected in tomorrow and don't take any BS.

lincroft1710

dunstonh is a very well respected, long standing and knowledgeable poster. Telling you in effect to pull your socks up and start acting as if it is your business is hardly bullying. You do not let your employees dictate to you, YOU dictate to them!

alun4

dunstonh said:

     And as you are clearly claiming it in breach of their rules, you wouldnt have a leg to stand on.

The person has asserted that I am guilty of a criminal offence .... 
Until the COVID lockdown, I have served my customers and staff (past and present) well and successfully for 45 years + I regard myself as respectable, trustworthy and honest so I don't think anyone could be more offensive than someone alleging criminal behavior.

Grumpy_chap

No one has alleged criminal behaviour.  @dunstonh merely highlighted where the liability falls if a mistake is made in relation to CJRS.  I also understood the full context that this was a statement you could make to the employee to explain why continuing on furlough is not possible when there is work available.

jon81uk

alun4 said:

dunstonh said:

     And as you are clearly claiming it in breach of their rules, you wouldnt have a leg to stand on.

The person has asserted that I am guilty of a criminal offence .... 
Until the COVID lockdown, I have served my customers and staff (past and present) well and successfully for 45 years + I regard myself as respectable, trustworthy and honest so I don't think anyone could be more offensive than someone alleging criminal behavior.

I don't think they did allege that, just to be cautious as if you claim furlough money incorrectly then it could see issues with HMRC.

But from the sounds of things you just need to work out what is needed and tell the employee what to do, if they don't do that then take action.
Either the job role isn't needed right now so keep on furlough, or the job role isn't needed permanently so make it redundant, or the role is needed so get them in to work.
If the employee refuses to come into work, then they can take it as leave (paid/unpaid) or you can start action towards dismissal.

Working out if the role is needed is one issue and then making the employee turn up to do the work is the second. If the role is needed but you keep someone on furlough incorrectly you could be doing something wrong.

DiamondLil

alun4 said:

dunstonh said:

     And as you are clearly claiming it in breach of their rules, you wouldnt have a leg to stand on.

The person has asserted that I am guilty of a criminal offence .... 
Until the COVID lockdown, I have served my customers and staff (past and present) well and successfully for 45 years + I regard myself as respectable, trustworthy and honest so I don't think anyone could be more offensive than someone alleging criminal behavior.

alun4 - I ask you to please re-read dunstonh's posts; lots of truth and common sense here which you are misinterpreting as attacks on your good self. You are seeing criticism where there is none and missing excellent, useful advice and information.

Galloglass

dunstonh is a very well respected, long standing and knowledgeable poster.

Is there some sort of badge that confirms this? I must have missed it.

JCS1

It's easy to take things personally when it's your own business.  I don't think anyone is making any personal attacks (even though it may appear like that to you).  it is instead straight talking advice for you to consider.