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  • csgohan4 said:
    BrockStoker said:
    csgohan4 said:

    Although I take what 'Fool' says with a pinch of salt, they said not to buy IAG a few months back, then say buy and now say don't buy.

    If that's a reference to the link I posted, I only posted it for the transcript of the earnings call. I would not listen to anything those fool fools say!

    ARWR down 12% why is that?
    Negative earnings "surprise". As I said in my post earlier:
    "Today looks like a good buying opportunity. Uninformed investors/traders selling it off when they should be buying, after yesterdays earnings/CC - they don't understand that negative earnings mean little for a non-commercial stage bio-pharma company"
    I ended up buying another 200+ shares as I could not resist that kind of discount!

  • bowlhead99
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    I ended up buying another 200+ shares as I could not resist that kind of discount!

    You could have got that 'discount' by simply buying the 200 shares this time three weeks ago :smiley:
  • csgohan4 said:
    BrockStoker said:
    csgohan4 said:

    Although I take what 'Fool' says with a pinch of salt, they said not to buy IAG a few months back, then say buy and now say don't buy.

    If that's a reference to the link I posted, I only posted it for the transcript of the earnings call. I would not listen to anything those fool fools say!

    ARWR down 12% why is that?
    Negative earnings "surprise". As I said in my post earlier:
    "Today looks like a good buying opportunity. Uninformed investors/traders selling it off when they should be buying, after yesterdays earnings/CC - they don't understand that negative earnings mean little for a non-commercial stage bio-pharma company"
    I ended up buying another 200+ shares as I could not resist that kind of discount!

    It could be that the markets don’t like the sudden and unexplained disappearance of Curt Bradshaw, the Chief Scientific Officer. Looks like trouble at t'mill.
    The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists.
  • I ended up buying another 200+ shares as I could not resist that kind of discount!

    You could have got that 'discount' by simply buying the 200 shares this time three weeks ago :smiley:
    I realize that. However, at the time I had no cash. Today I had another of my stocks pop, so it made sense to sell some, and buy ARWR with the proceeds  :)

  • csgohan4 said:
    BrockStoker said:
    csgohan4 said:

    Although I take what 'Fool' says with a pinch of salt, they said not to buy IAG a few months back, then say buy and now say don't buy.

    If that's a reference to the link I posted, I only posted it for the transcript of the earnings call. I would not listen to anything those fool fools say!

    ARWR down 12% why is that?
    Negative earnings "surprise". As I said in my post earlier:
    "Today looks like a good buying opportunity. Uninformed investors/traders selling it off when they should be buying, after yesterdays earnings/CC - they don't understand that negative earnings mean little for a non-commercial stage bio-pharma company"
    I ended up buying another 200+ shares as I could not resist that kind of discount!

    It could be that the markets don’t like the sudden and unexplained disappearance of Curt Bradshaw, the Chief Scientific Officer. Looks like trouble at t'mill.
    That might certainly be part of it, but I think it's more to do with the earnings and investors who do not know what they are doing.

  • At this time, if I wanted a punt I would go for a FTSE250 tracker like VMIG
  • Thrugelmir
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    mazibee said:
    adindas said:
    mazibee said:
    Yesterday I  was planning to buy either of BP. or RDSB but unfortunately both were up.
    SO still indecisive, whether I shall go for them today or wait.

    Also please can someone explain me  me whats the difference between RDSA and RDSB?
    Long Explanation. But simple explanation if you are based in the UK using UK trading Platform you will need RDSB.
    "RDSA is listed in the Netherlands with a withholding tax on dividends of 15-25 per cent while RDSB is a U.K.-sourced dividend under the company's Divide Access Mechanism."
    Both RDSA RDSB are traded in UK, NL, NY. Just be aware the RDS stocks are highly effected by the price of crude oil.
    I used to have RDSB but I sold it as I wanted to divert where my money could work harder. It is a good stock as in the past they were already closed to botttom. They are too big to fail, so the chance it is going under administation is very low.
    If you are waiting RDSB to go back to 865p, I wish you luck with that. Everyone want to buy the stock where the price at rock bottom. If we could now exactly whthe the rock botttom is we all already become a multi billionaires.


    If one has to make a choice between BP and RDSB,  which one is a better choice?
    Why these particular companies, what's the attraction? The developed markets are full of oil and energy companies. 
  • mazibee
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    mazibee said:
    adindas said:
    mazibee said:
    Yesterday I  was planning to buy either of BP. or RDSB but unfortunately both were up.
    SO still indecisive, whether I shall go for them today or wait.

    Also please can someone explain me  me whats the difference between RDSA and RDSB?
    Long Explanation. But simple explanation if you are based in the UK using UK trading Platform you will need RDSB.
    "RDSA is listed in the Netherlands with a withholding tax on dividends of 15-25 per cent while RDSB is a U.K.-sourced dividend under the company's Divide Access Mechanism."
    Both RDSA RDSB are traded in UK, NL, NY. Just be aware the RDS stocks are highly effected by the price of crude oil.
    I used to have RDSB but I sold it as I wanted to divert where my money could work harder. It is a good stock as in the past they were already closed to botttom. They are too big to fail, so the chance it is going under administation is very low.
    If you are waiting RDSB to go back to 865p, I wish you luck with that. Everyone want to buy the stock where the price at rock bottom. If we could now exactly whthe the rock botttom is we all already become a multi billionaires.


    If one has to make a choice between BP and RDSB,  which one is a better choice?
    Why these particular companies, what's the attraction? The developed markets are full of oil and energy companies. 
    BP 85% below its 52 W High , RDSB 77% below its 52 W high, Oil prices moving upward.
    Sorry for my ignorance, please can you elaborate a bit more.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    mazibee said:
    mazibee said:
    adindas said:
    mazibee said:
    Yesterday I  was planning to buy either of BP. or RDSB but unfortunately both were up.
    SO still indecisive, whether I shall go for them today or wait.

    Also please can someone explain me  me whats the difference between RDSA and RDSB?
    Long Explanation. But simple explanation if you are based in the UK using UK trading Platform you will need RDSB.
    "RDSA is listed in the Netherlands with a withholding tax on dividends of 15-25 per cent while RDSB is a U.K.-sourced dividend under the company's Divide Access Mechanism."
    Both RDSA RDSB are traded in UK, NL, NY. Just be aware the RDS stocks are highly effected by the price of crude oil.
    I used to have RDSB but I sold it as I wanted to divert where my money could work harder. It is a good stock as in the past they were already closed to botttom. They are too big to fail, so the chance it is going under administation is very low.
    If you are waiting RDSB to go back to 865p, I wish you luck with that. Everyone want to buy the stock where the price at rock bottom. If we could now exactly whthe the rock botttom is we all already become a multi billionaires.


    If one has to make a choice between BP and RDSB,  which one is a better choice?
    Why these particular companies, what's the attraction? The developed markets are full of oil and energy companies. 
    BP 85% below its 52 W High , RDSB 77% below its 52 W high, Oil prices moving upward.
    Sorry for my ignorance, please can you elaborate a bit more.
    Looking cheap because they are off 52 week highs isn't in itself a reason to invest. When buying individual shares "Know what you own".  Take the time to research. The larger the company, the greater the amount of information freely available on which to make an informed opinion about a particular Company. Read both the positives and the negatives. 

  • bowlhead99
    bowlhead99 Posts: 12,295 Forumite
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    mazibee said:
    mazibee said:
    adindas said:
    mazibee said:
    Yesterday I  was planning to buy either of BP. or RDSB but unfortunately both were up.
    SO still indecisive, whether I shall go for them today or wait.

    Also please can someone explain me  me whats the difference between RDSA and RDSB?
    Long Explanation. But simple explanation if you are based in the UK using UK trading Platform you will need RDSB.
    "RDSA is listed in the Netherlands with a withholding tax on dividends of 15-25 per cent while RDSB is a U.K.-sourced dividend under the company's Divide Access Mechanism."
    Both RDSA RDSB are traded in UK, NL, NY. Just be aware the RDS stocks are highly effected by the price of crude oil.
    I used to have RDSB but I sold it as I wanted to divert where my money could work harder. It is a good stock as in the past they were already closed to botttom. They are too big to fail, so the chance it is going under administation is very low.
    If you are waiting RDSB to go back to 865p, I wish you luck with that. Everyone want to buy the stock where the price at rock bottom. If we could now exactly whthe the rock botttom is we all already become a multi billionaires.


    If one has to make a choice between BP and RDSB,  which one is a better choice?
    Why these particular companies, what's the attraction? The developed markets are full of oil and energy companies. 
    BP 85% below its 52 W High , RDSB 77% below its 52 W high, Oil prices moving upward.
    Sorry for my ignorance, please can you elaborate a bit more.
    BP closed at 275p. If that is 85% below its 52-week high, its high at some point in the last year must have been 1833p. However, I don't think it has been any higher than 508p in the last year. Your numbers seem well off. 

    The question was - there are lots of oil and energy companies all over the planet, all with different strategies (and restructuring / redundancy programs) and making noises about a move towards becoming more sustainable while all providing some sort of exposure to 'oil prices moving upward'...

    Shell and BP (Shell being a bigger company and twice as valuable as BP) are together perhaps £160bn of market capitalisation, but the free float market cap of the sector within the global stock market index is a couple of trillion dollars (Saudi Aramco alone would be worth $1.5-$2 trillion, though most of it is owned by the Saudi government and only some of the shares are available for purchase on the open market)...

    So, Thrugelmir's point is, what's the attraction of buying one or the other of these two companies as if there weren't other companies that offer what they offer? What's wrong with buying any of the big ones listed in New York like Exxon, Chevron, Petrobras, or in Europe like Total or Equinor?  Or a smaller UK listed company with potential to grow, or some business that can be more nimble than the FTSE behemoths when refocussing its business to cope with the long term changing world economy and sentiment.
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