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They helped Boris to recover, they helped 1000's to recover, a bomb has been dropped on NHS workers

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  • Umkomaas
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    In Dar es Salaam my house was protected by razor wire and there was an armed guard outside.
    Why?  A falling out with the Memsahib perchance?  Tsst, tsst. 😮
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  • Andy_L
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    beamerguy said:
    Andy_L said:
    beamerguy said:
    They helped Boris to recover, they helped 1000's to recover, 

    He went to a Central London hospital - hardly any of them have any parking worth speaking of for either staff or patients
    Regardless where Boris went, hospital parking charges are universal in England and so are the NHS staff
    No they aren't. All English hospitals can charge, but not all do
  • beamerguy
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    D_P_Dance said:
    I firmly believe it.   I have worked in jusr as dangerous places as NHS hospitals.  I heard gunfire on morning in Dhaka, looked out of my window to see a tank go past.  In Dar es Salaam my house was protected by razor wire and there was an armed guard outside.  In Lagos I spent a wwk shredding documents as we feared the office would be attacked by a mob.
    Let us hope, god forbid, if you end up in hospital and the Doc or nurse cannot attend you because he or she paid £100 and cannot afford petrol. ????   And don't refer to the crappy public services
  • beamerguy
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    Interesting debate on Good Morning Britain at 8.20 am about hospital car parks.
    A lady from the NHS tried to explain the costs of running and maintaining car parks.  That could be accepted if the NHS banked the money but they don't, they give it away to private companies like Parking Eye and NCP etc who charge £100 a pop ???

    In the words of the infamous BWLegal, that really is "nonsensical"

  • Andy_L
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    beamerguy said:
    Interesting debate on Good Morning Britain at 8.20 am about hospital car parks.
    A lady from the NHS tried to explain the costs of running and maintaining car parks.  That could be accepted if the NHS banked the money but they don't, they give it away to private companies like Parking Eye and NCP etc who charge £100 a pop ???

    In the words of the infamous BWLegal, that really is "nonsensical"

    What, for free? They don't get ground rent or a share of the profits from the parking company?
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 9 July 2020 at 12:22PM
    No ground rent. They don't lease the car park out to the PPC.

    They usually get a minuscule percentage of the small fees paid at the machines (maybe 10 - 20%), whilst the PPCs are incentivised to penalise people at £100 a pop.  And the PPCs keep all that money and do not maintain the tarmac/surface or any such work.

    The difference in the millions made by PPCs at Hospitals compared with the pittance retained by the NHS is staggering.  
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  • D_P_Dance
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    Getting back to the orinal post, Royal Berkshire Hospital has within its grounds a purpose built multi storey car park.  I do not know if NHS staff park there, but if they do I think that it is perfectly reasonable to expect them to pay to park there.  NHS staff are no more valuable in my opinion than care workers in the private sector,  divorce lawyers, and pothole repairers.
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  • beamerguy
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    D_P_Dance said:
    Getting back to the orinal post, Royal Berkshire Hospital has within its grounds a purpose built multi storey car park.  I do not know if NHS staff park there, but if they do I think that it is perfectly reasonable to expect them to pay to park there.  NHS staff are no more valuable in my opinion than care workers in the private sector,  divorce lawyers, and pothole repairers.
    TUT TUT, ever seen lawyers or pothole repairers gown up in PPE in ICU to save a life ???

    You are living in your colonial past old chap

  • D_P_Dance
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    edited 9 July 2020 at 1:49PM
    ALL of this emotive nonsese about how wonderful the NHS is sickens me.  It is not "the best in the world" by a long chalk, I think that it rates about 17 places below that,  Only yesterday another FUBAR was announced. affecting hundreds/perhaps thousands of women and children. 

    IMO, it is badly managed by overpaid and incompetent  managers and pays far too much for everything.  Personal experience of the service in Spain is that it, (the NHS), compares unfavourably.  
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • beamerguy
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    It is badly managed I agree and "Hancock's half hour" is beyond belief.  BUT, we are talking about employees here who do their best to save lives from Covid and still will
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