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Mother (96yrs old) and Sister (80 yrs old), sister had been given notice

History: Elderly sister has always lived with elderly Mum, another sister has arranged with GP for her to be put into a home, as she cannot take care of herself. How long is the notice period to quit her home.  Are there any laws to protect her being moved out in light of her age etc. Does the new COVID instructions regarding evictions cover her. Plus no idea where she should go to for assistance. Thank you.

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  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 18,663 Forumite
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    I am a bit confused as to who arranged for who to leave the shared home.

    Even for "seniors", they cannot be forced by a 'random' (if connected and concerned) third party agreeing something with the GP.  It is, in fact, very rare for a GP to discuss anything with a third party.  We would need much more clarity on the situation for anyone to provide meaningful comment.

    I am not sure this is really a coronavirus support and help thread.
  • p00hsticks
    p00hsticks Posts: 14,584 Forumite
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    edited 19 June 2020 at 5:50PM
    More info is needed -
    Q. It's not clear from your post if it's the sister or the mum who's going into a home ?
    Q. is where they currently live owned (if so, who by) or rented (if so, whose name is on the tenancy and is it a social or private landlord ?)
    Q. How old is 'elderly' - presumably over 65 in both cases ?
    Q. How will the care home be funded  - by private funds or will she need it to be subsidised by the local authorities ?
    Q. Who exactly has 'given notice' and on what grounds ?
    Shelter and/or Age UK are the first names that spring to mind for assistance / advice and also the local council social care team
  • calcotti
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    edited 19 June 2020 at 5:57PM
    Notice is only required if the tenancy agreement. If two people are simply living together in a house one of them owns there is no legal requirement for one to give notice to the other.
    Information I post is for England unless otherwise stated. Some rules may be different in other parts of UK.
  • Who owns the property they live in?
  • Fishing1948
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    I am a bit confused as to who arranged for who to leave the shared home.

    Even for "seniors", they cannot be forced by a 'random' (if connected and concerned) third party agreeing something with the GP.  It is, in fact, very rare for a GP to discuss anything with a third party.  We would need much more clarity on the situation for anyone to provide meaningful comment.

    I am not sure this is really a coronavirus support and help thread.
    Thank you, I am limited at present as to any other information. Hello, just heard news, I am another sister, so emotional, my mother at 96 is going into a nursing home. This is what the younger sister has arranged with mum's GP.  Not too sure how much more you need in answers. My elderly sister has to leave her home as my younger sister has decided she must move into a home. My sister too is elderly being the eldest of the family at years she was told on the phone by the younger sister. The GP said Mum can not now take care of her self any more. My elderly sister has always lived with my mum, and pays her rent and money towards the bills. I put this question under this forum due to that Martin mentioned that the Government has extended that eviction notice has been extended to August.
  • Browntoa
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    Is it a private rental , housing association or council ? 

    Who has issued an eviction notice ?
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  • Fishing1948
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    More info is needed -  
    Q. It's not clear from your post if it's the sister or the mum who's going into a home ?
    Q. is where they currently live owned (if so, who by) or rented (if so, whose name is on the tenancy and is it a social or private landlord ?)
    Q. How old is 'elderly' - presumably over 65 in both cases ?
    Q. How will the care home be funded  - by private funds or will she need it to be subsidised by the local authorities ?
    Q. Who exactly has 'given notice' and on what grounds ?
    Shelter and/or Age UK are the first names that spring to mind for assistance / advice and also the local council social care team
    In the heading are their ages, perhaps you cannot see those. Mother is 96 and sister is 80 this year.
    My mum as that was recommended/suggester by the GP, I did not attend that meeting.
    It is owned by my mum, see above re the ages
    Private I presume after sale of her property
    younger sister who has taken mum into her home to my elder sister, my elderly sister has no idea, she was not informed it was only yesterday,
    Thank you for the advice where my sister can go to for information about housing. Appreciate that.
  • Fishing1948
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    calcotti said:
    Notice is only required if the tenancy agreement. If two people are simply living together in a house one of them owns there is no legal requirement for one to give notice to the other.
    Ok thank you.
  • Fishing1948
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    MadMattUK said:
    Who owns the property they live in?
    My mother owns the property

  • purple12
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    The GP can't put anyone in a care home. There would have to be a decision by your mother and if she lacked capacity to make that decision, the local social care team would be involved. Care homes have thresholds to meet and will not be able to take anyone who wants to go as well. 

    Ask your mother who arranged it - and if she will give consent for you to speak to them about her care. If she doesn't have capacity to make the decision, then it might be about asking the local social care team via the GP if necessary. If she owns the house and her daughter who is over 65, lives there, the house will not need to be sold. The local authority cannot force sale if there is another 'vulnerable' (and older person counts here) lives there.   Go to Age UK for advice, i think. But it is probably not as straightforward as it might sound. 
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