People on the dole

PasturesNew

katiekittykat wrote: »

I left school at 16 with only a few GCSE's (math and science not any of them!)

The OP did not go to school. She was home schooled and has no formal education and took no exams.

katiekittykat wrote: »

I managed to get job and i didn't drive!

The OP is in a remote village that has no shops and 1 pub. Even signing on is not done by her attending.

katiekittykat wrote: »

I couldn't drive til I was 23! It didn't stop me from working.

Where the OP lives, the first bus that gets her into town does not get her to town until 10.30 in the morning.

The last bus home leaves at 4pm

katiekittykat wrote: »

Sounds to me like you are just making excuses not to work, there is work out there for everyone - even if it is working in macdonalds!

And the nearest macdonalds might be 100 miles away.

Problems like this are never one thing but an accumulation of circumstances.

I'd say the best offer so far is that PGL link... looks good.

Fleago

I've sat on my fingers until now, but I can't any longer! I think some of you are being quite harsh with Turkish Delight, mixed in with a lot of good advice for her. Please forgive me if I'm wrong TD, but you seem to have had quite a few issues with very low self confidence and have been brought up to be very isolated, not only in geographic terms but in social ways as well.

Plus, many of the things suggested would mean TD relying on her parents, lifts to work, paying less dig money etc, things that are outwith her control and when she has stated that these suggestions wouldn't work, she's been accused of putting up barriers or being lazy etc. Not everyone has parents who will willingly jump into the breach!

Not only that, although many of us are confident enough or have enough parental support to get on our mopeds/travel for x amount of hours/live in a shoebox in the middle of the M6 and still have change for a fish supper/work in a salt mine for peanuts etc etc, when a person is inexperienced, or coming from a sheltered upbringing, or feels depressed about their situation being, to them, insurmountable, it is very hard to be upbeat and optimistic.

TD, for what it's worth, I think you would be best applying for live in posts where you can break free and start to build your own life. If you haven't got anything by March, I think it's a very good idea to use your trust fund to relocate first, then learn to drive and get a little car. Once you get away from your current isolation I'm sure you will absolutely blossom!

Good luck!

Fleago

anewman

pipkin71 wrote: »

I do get the feeling though that the OP has some sort of low self esteem issue - she has mentioned depression on another thread - and although it would seem to many that there is just excuse after excuse, I think it is more than that, and it is more than the issue of transport that the OP needs to tackle, not only in order to get a job, but to keep it too.

Days and days of trying to get work and getting thrown back every single time doesn't exactly help people keep at the peak of their mental health does it?! Makes you feel like a worthless piece of crap that noone wants to employ. The only thing that can help you get over that is being given a job, but when a job is so difficult to get... And even then you might just end up with a soul destroying job working all through the night for minimum wage packing brown indescript boxes and not talking to anyone all night long.

pipkin71

Fleago wrote: »

I've sat on my fingers until now, but I can't any longer! I think some of you are being quite harsh with Turkish Delight, mixed in with a lot of good advice for her. Please forgive me if I'm wrong TD, but you seem to have had quite a few issues with very low self confidence and have been brought up to be very isolated, not only in geographic terms but in social ways as well.

Plus, many of the things suggested would mean TD relying on her parents, lifts to work, paying less dig money etc, things that are outwith her control and when she has stated that these suggestions wouldn't work, she's been accused of putting up barriers or being lazy etc. Not everyone has parents who will willingly jump into the breach!

Not only that, although many of us are confident enough or have enough parental support to get on our mopeds/travel for x amount of hours/live in a shoebox in the middle of the M6 and still have change for a fish supper/work in a salt mine for peanuts etc etc, when a person is inexperienced, or coming from a sheltered upbringing, or feels depressed about their situation being, to them, insurmountable, it is very hard to be upbeat and optimistic.

TD, for what it's worth, I think you would be best applying for live in posts where you can break free and start to build your own life. If you haven't got anything by March, I think it's a very good idea to use your trust fund to relocate first, then learn to drive and get a little car. Once you get away from your current isolation I'm sure you will absolutely blossom!

Good luck!

Fleago

Very nicely worded fleago, and sums up how I feel about this thread. I'm sure, with the right support, TD will reach where she wants to be in life.

Pipkin xxxx

LizD_2

TurkishDelight wrote: »

The jobs honestly aren't there, and the jobcentre will happily pay someone to look for jobs and set up interviews with employers that don't have vacancies but they wont pay for helpful stuff like driving lessons or even bus fares to and from the jobcentre and interviews or voluntary work. At one point, out of the blue they gave me £50 to buy interview clothes, and told me there's another 50 when I get a job for working clothes Basically they ask to see me every 6 months, I spend one and a half hours on a bus, they say- right you're still alive good, sign this- and then I check their little machines, and wander aimlessly around Llandudno before the one and a half hour bus ride home. It's a pointless ritual and everybody involved knows that the way things are done is ridiculous.

Double check this, I was unemployed a few years ago and they were prepared to pay for 10 lessons and a test. This may only apply to England and possibly only if you've had some driving experience (I did).

The reason they don't pay extra for bus fares is because your JSA is *supposed* to pay for things like that.

anewman

LizD wrote: »

Double check this, I was unemployed a few years ago and they were prepared to pay for 10 lessons and a test. This may only apply to England and possibly only if you've had some driving experience (I did).

I suppose that shows you how desperate they are to get people off their books and into employment. Seems a bit silly to me when there's no guarantee of passing. Was it that you needed only 10 lessons? Would they have paid for more? Did it really help you get a job at the end of it?

LizD_2

I don't know quite what their reasoning was! I imagine it was 10 lessons because that's usually the beginner's package. Whether they would have paid for more, I don't know.
I didn't take it up because I got a job a week or two later (through a friend of a friend, by the way).

TurkishDelight

LizD wrote: »

Double check this, I was unemployed a few years ago and they were prepared to pay for 10 lessons and a test. This may only apply to England and possibly only if you've had some driving experience (I did).

The reason they don't pay extra for bus fares is because your JSA is *supposed* to pay for things like that.

Oh I have believe me :rotfl:
But thanks.
Most of you and I hate to say this because some of you have been at least trying to help, have missed, consistently, most of the major points. I am in education, and I do plan to move and to try learn to drive as soon as I am able to raise enough money, which looks like when I can get my trust fund.
I'm going to stop replying now, because I never actually intended this thread to be a personal thing and I don't really want to go over and over the same ground.
Thank you ever so much to everybody who has tried to be nice or helpful or just rational you're all stars :T :A


and to to the rest of you because you are idiots.

bookemdano

TurkishDelight wrote: »

Oh I have believe me :rotfl:
But thanks.
Most of you and I hate to say this because some of you have been at least trying to help, have missed, consistently, most of the major points. I am in education, and I do plan to move and to try learn to drive as soon as I am able to raise enough money, which looks like when I can get my trust fund.
I'm going to stop replying now, because I never actually intended this thread to be a personal thing and I don't really want to go over and over the same ground.
Thank you ever so much to everybody who has tried to be nice or helpful or just rational you're all stars :T :A


and to to the rest of you because you are idiots.

Good luck with everything

pipkin71

bookemdano wrote: »

Good luck with everything

Ditto.

Good luck TD

Pipkin xxxx