Possible speeding charge imminent ?

Car_54

murrays2 said:

How exactly can people on a forum decipher what the policemans gesture meant? Seriously? 

If the occifer had wanted the OP to stop, he would have used the hand signal illustrated in the Highway Code.

Mercdriver

[DELETED USER] said:

barstar said:

neilmcl said:

greyteam1959 said:

How did he manage this I wonder ??
Did he drop the camera ??
but the guy holding the camera threw both his hands out to his side in a "what  are you doing" manner. 

Have you not considered the fact the camera may well have been mounted on a tripod.

No the hand held cameras are not that big he was holding the camera in one hand when he threw his arms out to the side there was no tripod

Might just have been a scarecrow. Sometimes they send out a fake cop to hold a little camera and wave at people they think are going too fast. Cheap and effective.

They aren't actual police, they are just employed by the police and dressed up to look a bit like them. Borderline illegal, impersonating a police officer. You can always stop and ask why they were waving at you. Best to film it if you do.

They don't have to be police to be using the equipment and then sending the evidence on and the RK/accused getting the letter inside the required 14 days.  They just have to be trained in the use of the equipment.

Ordinarily police would stop drivers they catch with a handheld speed measurement device.  And not having been stopped would normally be cause for a sigh of relief.  In these times, that may well be premature before the 14 days (if you are RK) are up.  More people will be dealt with remotely fo a few more months, yet.

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Mercdriver said:

[DELETED USER] said:

barstar said:

neilmcl said:

greyteam1959 said:

How did he manage this I wonder ??
Did he drop the camera ??
but the guy holding the camera threw both his hands out to his side in a "what  are you doing" manner. 

Have you not considered the fact the camera may well have been mounted on a tripod.

No the hand held cameras are not that big he was holding the camera in one hand when he threw his arms out to the side there was no tripod

Might just have been a scarecrow. Sometimes they send out a fake cop to hold a little camera and wave at people they think are going too fast. Cheap and effective.

They aren't actual police, they are just employed by the police and dressed up to look a bit like them. Borderline illegal, impersonating a police officer. You can always stop and ask why they were waving at you. Best to film it if you do.

They don't have to be police to be using the equipment and then sending the evidence on and the RK/accused getting the letter inside the required 14 days.  They just have to be trained in the use of the equipment.

Ordinarily police would stop drivers they catch with a handheld speed measurement device.  And not having been stopped would normally be cause for a sigh of relief.  In these times, that may well be premature before the 14 days (if you are RK) are up.  More people will be dealt with remotely fo a few more months, yet.

Yes, it's the dressing up as a cop that is the illegal part. Impersonating a police officer.

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[DELETED USER] said:

Mercdriver said:

[DELETED USER] said:

barstar said:

neilmcl said:

greyteam1959 said:

How did he manage this I wonder ??
Did he drop the camera ??
but the guy holding the camera threw both his hands out to his side in a "what  are you doing" manner. 

Have you not considered the fact the camera may well have been mounted on a tripod.

No the hand held cameras are not that big he was holding the camera in one hand when he threw his arms out to the side there was no tripod

Might just have been a scarecrow. Sometimes they send out a fake cop to hold a little camera and wave at people they think are going too fast. Cheap and effective.

They aren't actual police, they are just employed by the police and dressed up to look a bit like them. Borderline illegal, impersonating a police officer. You can always stop and ask why they were waving at you. Best to film it if you do.

They don't have to be police to be using the equipment and then sending the evidence on and the RK/accused getting the letter inside the required 14 days.  They just have to be trained in the use of the equipment.

Ordinarily police would stop drivers they catch with a handheld speed measurement device.  And not having been stopped would normally be cause for a sigh of relief.  In these times, that may well be premature before the 14 days (if you are RK) are up.  More people will be dealt with remotely fo a few more months, yet.

Yes, it's the dressing up as a cop that is the illegal part. Impersonating a police officer.

Even then it's not a clear cut offence, what if the police force make you dress up like a cop and put either police staff or PCSO on a police uniform?

Navigator123

A hand held camera does not take pictures, it only tells the officer the speed of the vehicle he is pointing it at.  If the officer did not stop you then you have nothing to worry about.

Car_54

Navigator123 said:

A hand held camera does not take pictures, it only tells the officer the speed of the vehicle he is pointing it at.  If the officer did not stop you then you have nothing to worry about.

If it's a camera, it takes pictures. That's what they're for. But what the OP saw almost certainly wasn't a camera, but a speedmeter. So you're right, there will be no picture.

However, they don't need a photo, they simply have to note the reg. number.

master_blaster_44

I remember in the early 90's I was driving along when all of a sudden a copper jumped out from behind a lamp post holding a speed gun signalling me to stop. I must have been his first customer of the day and he jumped out at the very last minute and I drove past him. I will never forget this sad little face in the rear view mirror as I carried on driving. Never heard anything more about it. Very funny

Mercdriver

Navigator123 said:

A hand held camera does not take pictures, it only tells the officer the speed of the vehicle he is pointing it at.  If the officer did not stop you then you have nothing to worry about.

Wrong answer.  They just need an opinion that you are over the speed limit, a device to corroborate that opinion, and your reg number.  They don't need any photographic evidence at all.  In normal circumstances following up would anecdotally be unusual.  In these circumstances where social distancing in force, I would suggest it would likely be less unusual.  When I have been doing necessary journeys, I have noticed more in the way of speed enforcement than usual.

Ditzy_Mitzy

I can't imagine this will go anywhere. It's probable, given that the speedometer in the car was likely to have been under-reading at the time, that the car was over the limit but below the threshold to make it worth bothering about - say 34 or 35 mph. The policeman was probably just indicating that he knew the car was going too fast and the driver ought to slow down. If the police wanted to have set up a proper speed trap with a mobile photographic camera, they would have done so. 

shaun_from_Africa

Ditzy_Mitzy said:

I can't imagine this will go anywhere. It's probable, given that the speedometer in the car was likely to have been under-reading at the time, 

If the speedo was under-reading then the OP would have been going faster than the indicated speed and not slower.
It's illegal to drive with an under-reading speedometer but permissible for it to over-read by up to 10% + 6.25 mph.