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Create a Web App for your online banking

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  • gsmh
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    eskbanker said:
    As to the comment about how you expected it not to be of interest to others, that does indeed seem odd, but you don't seem to have answered the question of why post on that basis?
    I live in hope. I've worked in IT for a couple of decades and am very aware the progressive web apps might well be the next big thing. Given that most apps are internet aware they are not a million miles away from a web browser and creating an app from a web page means that you get something that feels like an application and acts like an application. Steve Jobs saw that many years ago when he launched the iPhone and said there would be no apps, everything would be done through the web. He was actually referring to web apps. The App Store didn't happen until much later.  Many people, however, could only relate to traditional programs and traditional web browsers like they used on their computers.
    If you use Google Photos try creating a web app on your desktop computer using the new Microsoft Edge (or Chrome if you must) and see what I mean. Pin it to your Taskbar or Dock. See what you think.
    https://web.dev/what-are-pwas/


  • gsmh
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    edited 9 May 2020 at 4:42PM
    It's a useful thing to know, but it sounds like google are overplaying the concept by calling it a web app, when really it is creating a shortcut in the dock (or whatever they call it).  It's this slight misrepresentation that people were questioning I think.
    A chromium browser makes it easier, but chromium is an open source project that Google, Microsoft, Brave and others build their browsers on top of. On my Mac I use an app called Fluid or one called Nativefier to create web apps. I won't use Google Chrome because it is a data gathering exercise for Google, as are all Google products and services. Microsoft Edge is a chromium-based browser with no Google.
    A web app has its own instance visible to the OS and is seen in a different way than a browser window. As I said, try it with Google Photos, Amazon prime Photos, your bank or something else.

  • Vortigern
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    gsmh said:
    Deleted. As expected, clearly of no interest to forum members.
    I might have been interested but I didn't get the chance to see your post.
    You left it up for less than 24 hours. Poor forum etiquette.


  • gsmh
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    Vortigern said:
    I might have been interested but I didn't get the chance to see your post.
    You left it up for less than 24 hours. (finger wagging deleted)


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  • Zanderman
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    gsmh said:
    Vortigern said:
    I might have been interested but I didn't get the chance to see your post.
    You left it up for less than 24 hours. (finger wagging deleted)


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    Very sensible!
  • inspectorperez
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    Interested in this thread, but do have a question to ask if some reader may provide the answer- and certainly don't mean to hi-jack the topic because in my mind it is an important security issue related to the subject matter described by the creator of the thread.
    Santander Bank for one, insist that you use IBM's Trusteer Rapport add in for security purposes. If you don't have this add in installed or enabled, you get a warning message at login stage which gives you the opportunity of taking remedial action.
    This add in however to my knowledge only works with Firefox and Google Chrome. I am pretty sure it does not work with either Opera or Microsoft Edge.
    Any observations please?


  • Zanderman
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    edited 9 May 2020 at 5:26PM
    Interesting idea.
    Just played about with it for a few sites , including a bank.
    I can see how it works in Edge (v 84) but there is absolutely no prompt or menu option for 'saving as an app' in Chrome for any site I tried. So it seems impossible from Chrome, as far as i can see.
    That's using Chrome v 81. 
    Understand that this isn't the same as Chromium, which i use on Linux, but Chrome is my default on Windows.
  • Zanderman
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    And looking at Firefox this seems a similar concept to the system you get with Firefox Pocket - though you have to sign up to that to use it.
  • gsmh
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    edited 9 May 2020 at 5:35PM
    Zanderman said:
    I can see how it works in Edge (v 84) but there is absolutely no prompt or menu option for 'saving as an app' in Chrome
    It is there, but for some reason Google has obfuscated it. Unless you really have to use Google Chrome I would strongly recommend Microsoft edge. Effectively the same browser without all the Google spying shenanigans. Have a look at this web page explaining how create a web app in Google Chrome.

  • Zanderman
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    edited 9 May 2020 at 5:38PM
    Santander Bank for one, insist that you use IBM's Trusteer Rapport add in for security purposes. If you don't have this add in installed or enabled, you get a warning message at login stage which gives you the opportunity of taking remedial action.

    You don't have to use Rapport at all.  It's just Santander (and others) making you think you have to.  Rapport, in my experience, is an awful system best deleted!  
    The key point though is that Rapport is a system that makes sure you're not visiting a scam site - it protects you from accidentally logging on to a scammer.
    It would be completely unnecessary if you had saved the bank's site as an app as the app will only go to the site it was set up for.  So whether Rapport would kick in or not, or works with an particular browser, is irrelevant as, if you're using a website-saved-as-an-app, Rapport is irrelevant. It's not needed.
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