Car Accident - Council denying liability

KimJongUn88

Look at how set back that island is.  It's the whole length of the shop!  Plus it's lit from each side of the road with streetlights. This clearly defeats your argument of having to move to the right to avoid a turning car.  There is so much room on your side of the road!

mcpitman

OP - get your eyes checked and slow down.

The only way you didn't see that is either through excess speed, unfit to drive or blind incompetence.

MinuteNoodles

Scrapit said:

facade said:

I don't think I have ever turned offside to offside at a traffic light in 50 years of driving.

You've never lived. I regularly do. Seems ok to me.

I've done it too but you don't cut the corner that much by any shot. For them to hit that central island if there'd been a give way line at the junction on the road from the right they'd have had to have been driving up the wrong side of the road, that's how much they've cut that corner.

Methinks someone was going too fast and treating the streets like a race track, decided to apex the corner and walloped the clearly visible central reservation. There seems to have been a hell of a lot of that going on recently with the lockdown and lack of traffic.

jordan12291257

MinuteNoodles said:

Scrapit said:

facade said:

I don't think I have ever turned offside to offside at a traffic light in 50 years of driving.

You've never lived. I regularly do. Seems ok to me.

I've done it too but you don't cut the corner that much by any shot. For them to hit that central island if there'd been a give way line at the junction on the road from the right they'd have had to have been driving up the wrong side of the road, that's how much they've cut that corner.

Methinks someone was going too fast and treating the streets like a race track, decided to apex the corner and walloped the clearly visible central reservation. There seems to have been a hell of a lot of that going on recently with the lockdown and lack of traffic.

Nothing of the sort if that would have happened I would have more than a buckled wheel and a few bits of snapped plastics. I have no need to come on here and lie I’ve explained the situation, I was just looking for some advice on whether to proceed any further. Also the accident was early March before lockdown started in the UK. 

KimJongUn88

If you're so adamant the council are at fault, stop wasting people's time and bandwidth and issue proceedings against the council then.

https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money

DoaM

MinuteNoodles said:

Scrapit said:

facade said:

I don't think I have ever turned offside to offside at a traffic light in 50 years of driving.

You've never lived. I regularly do. Seems ok to me.

I've done it too but you don't cut the corner that much by any shot

Methinks you don't know your offside from your nearside.

DoaM

unforeseen said:

jordan12291257 said:

Sorry people clearly not enough information. I was turning from one road onto another road, a car coming from straight ahead, I was turning right and so was they obviously both opposite ways. So I had to move over towards the right. If the crossing didn’t need bollards they wouldn’t have had them there in the first place, so they are clearly there for a reason?

I am having some serious deja vu with this. Wasn't there a thread quite a few months ago with a scenario which was virtually the same as this? 

I think I recall the thread you mean ... that one was in Strathclyde though (I think - it certainly wasn't near Manchester anyway). And that one was far less clear cut as this one is ... the unlit island on that one was much closer to the junction. Plus it was truly unlit.

AdrianC

jordan12291257 said:

Nothing of the sort if that would have happened I would have more than a buckled wheel and a few bits of snapped plastics.

OTOH, if you really were doing 10-15mph, you'd not only have seen it (assuming you were looking where you were going), but you'd simply have bounced a tyre* up it...

* assuming a reasonable profile tyre - what are they? 35s?

eschaton

Look on the bright side Jordan, if the police had seen your driving then they might have done you with driving without due care and attention. 

MinuteNoodles

DoaM said:

Methinks you don't know your offside from your nearside.

I would hope that as a former mechanic I do. The nearside is the kerb side, in the UK that's the left. The offside is the opposite to the nearside, in the UK that's the right side of the vehicle.