Car Accident - Council denying liability

Dr_Crypto

I don’t understand.

You were on Hamilton Street turning right at the lights (onto the A577 towards Manchester) Another car was coming from the opposite direction (Kay Street) also turning right (away from Manchester). Why did you have to move so far to your right that you hit the island crossing? 

Even if the bollards were missing surely it would have been visible? 

Scrapit

That's quite a wide lane. Where were you off to so to be so far over to hit that?

jordan12291257

dacouch said:

Adrian gave you the correct answer earlier, if the council inspected the road at the required interval then you have no claim against them.
To damage your car on that you must have been going reasonably fast as hitting that at a turning speed of 10 - 15mph would not do much damage to your car

Ok I will take this into consideration. Buckled wheel and broken plastics not a major problem but still won’t be cheap to fix. 

jordan12291257

Mercdriver said:

www.specsavers.co.uk 
You're welcome.

Ah very helpful thanks. 

Manxman_in_exile

Dr_Crypto said:

I don’t understand.

You were on Hamilton Street turning right at the lights (onto the A577 towards Manchester) Another car was coming from the opposite direction (Kay Street) also turning right (away from Manchester). Why did you have to move so far to your right that you hit the island crossing? 

Even if the bollards were missing surely it would have been visible? 

I think the OP means that he and the car travelling in the opposite direction both turned right and their paths "crossed" near-side to near-side rather than off-side to off-side, and as a consequence the OP cut the corner rather more than was wise.

FWIW I don't like the look of that piece of street furniture without bollards.  I'm sure most drivers would readily see at night a moving upright pedestrian when making this turn, but perhaps not all of them would equally notice a motionless pedestrian wearing dark clothing lying flat in the road.

MinuteNoodles

jordan12291257 said:

This is the photo I took from my view of the crossing just after the accident occurred. When turning the crossing was in my blind spot near the drivers side wheel I didn’t fully drive over the whole thing only the driver side went over it. If the bollards were there like they should have been, this wouldn’t have happened? 

Thanks 

You've got no chance. You were paying absolutely ZERO ATTENTION to hit those. They're as plain as day to see. ot only that, NOBODY CUTS CORNERS THAT MUCH when turning into a side road. They are WAY back from the road you turned right from. Regardless of the bollards being there or not your car shouldn't have been anywhere near that island. I drive lorries, they're 53 feet long and even my lorry turning right at that junction wouldn't have been near that island.

Your driving is truly shocking if you didn't see that and you think the path you took to turn right was a reasonable one.

unforeseen

jordan12291257 said:

Sorry people clearly not enough information. I was turning from one road onto another road, a car coming from straight ahead, I was turning right and so was they obviously both opposite ways. So I had to move over towards the right. If the crossing didn’t need bollards they wouldn’t have had them there in the first place, so they are clearly there for a reason?

I am having some serious deja vu with this. Wasn't there a thread quite a few months ago with a scenario which was virtually the same as this? 

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You would have had more of a case if it had been a proper bollard that was illuminated. They say the camera never lies so why didn't you see it, lack of attention?

facade

Manxman_in_exile said:

I think the OP means that he and the car travelling in the opposite direction both turned right and their paths "crossed" near-side to near-side rather than off-side to off-side, and as a consequence the OP cut the corner rather more than was wise.

I don't think I have ever turned offside to offside at a traffic light in 50 years of driving.

How do you pass through the car immediately behind the one you are trying to drive around- and the one you are trying to drive around pass through the car behind you?

Maybe if there are only 2 cars on the road it would work

Scrapit

facade said:

Manxman_in_exile said:

I think the OP means that he and the car travelling in the opposite direction both turned right and their paths "crossed" near-side to near-side rather than off-side to off-side, and as a consequence the OP cut the corner rather more than was wise.

I don't think I have ever turned offside to offside at a traffic light in 50 years of driving.

How do you pass through the car immediately behind the one you are trying to drive around- and the one you are trying to drive around pass through the car behind you?

Maybe if there are only 2 cars on the road it would work

You've never lived. I regularly do. Seems ok to me.