39 in a 20. Just wondering how many points that will be.

Lit_Up
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Police using speed gun caught me doing 39 in a 20. 
Just wondering how many points that will be. Not drinking, wide road, no passengers, on my own etc, going to work. 
Clean license currently but did an awareness course about a year ago for doing 26 in a 20. 
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  • DoaM
    DoaM Posts: 11,863 Forumite
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    edited 6 May 2020 at 2:37PM
    Well you won't be offered another SAC, that's for sure.

    Assuming that's not a typo and it really was 39 in a 20 then you're possibly looking at court as this is almost double the posted limit. This of course assumes that the 20 limit has been properly established and is legally enforceable ... if not then it would be classed as 39 in a 30, so probably 3 points and £100 FPN. If you were taken to court then that's something you should look into.

    If this was the same road as applied to the SAC ... why haven't you learned your lesson?
  • TadleyBaggie
    TadleyBaggie Posts: 6,048 Forumite
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    4-6 point (probably 6) or up to 28 days ban plus a Band B fine.
  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 8,208 Forumite
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    DoaM said:
    If you were taken to court then that's something you should look into.
    For 39 in a 20 limit, he will be.

  • Lit_Up
    Lit_Up Posts: 236 Forumite
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    Car_54 said:
    DoaM said:
    If you were taken to court then that's something you should look into.
    For 39 in a 20 limit, he will be.

    Source please? 
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    Lit_Up said:
    Car_54 said:
    DoaM said:
    If you were taken to court then that's something you should look into.
    For 39 in a 20 limit, he will be.

    Source please? 
    One of many - https://www.confused.com/on-the-road/driving-law/speeding-fine-calculator
  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 8,208 Forumite
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    Lit_Up said:
    Car_54 said:
    DoaM said:
    If you were taken to court then that's something you should look into.
    For 39 in a 20 limit, he will be.

    Source please? 
    Police guidelines (which are generally adhered to) are for fixed penalty offers only up to 35 mph.  See http://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/ACPO-Speed-Enforcement-Guidance.pdf


  • McKneff
    McKneff Posts: 38,819 Forumite
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    20 is central town, you were doing twice the speed  limit.
    You have been in the same position before.
    If i said what i really want to say i would be removed from the site. 
    make the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
    and we will never, ever return.
  • AdrianC
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    These are the thresholds that usually get pulled out, and I've never seen them debunked with any authority - quite the opposite, first time I saw them, they were posted by a specialist traffic law barrister...

    So - 39 in a 20? You're way above SAC (although you've had your tea and biccies). You're a good chunk above an FPN. Court date - or, rather, SJPN. Band B fine = 75%-125% of weekly income, and 4-6 points.

    Plead guilty. Throw yourself on the court's mercy and accept that you dropped a very large hairy one.

  • Dr_Crypto
    Dr_Crypto Posts: 1,211 Forumite
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    https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/speeding-revised-2017/
    Band B fine, so 100% of weekly income less 1/3 for an early guilty plea, plus prosecution costs (usually £85-100), plus victim surcharge (10%), plus 4-6 points (you're the higher end of the bracket so you might be looking at 6 rather than 4). 
    Weekly income is taken to be £440pw if you fail to supply details. If you're unwaged or on benefits it is deemed £120pw. 
    You can work out your own fine https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/fine-calculator/
  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 8,208 Forumite
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    AdrianC said:


    These are the thresholds that usually get pulled out, and I've never seen them debunked with any authority - quite the opposite, first time I saw them, they were posted by a specialist traffic law barrister...

    So - 39 in a 20? You're way above SAC (although you've had your tea and biccies). You're a good chunk above an FPN. Court date - or, rather, SJPN. Band B fine = 75%-125% of weekly income, and 4-6 points.

    Plead guilty. Throw yourself on the court's mercy and accept that you dropped a very large hairy one.

    That RAC article is not totally accurate. The so-called "leeway" usually allowed is not 10% plus 2, but 10% plus 1. Plus 2 is the starting point for action.

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