Are we allowed to go to work self employed?

woody2234

Is getting a government backed loan any help.
Theres this one

New Bounce Back Loans to launch today

Britain’s small businesses will be able to apply for quick and easy-to access loans of up to £50,000 from today – with the cash expected to land within days. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-bounce-back-loans-to-launch-today
And this one

Check if you can claim a grant through the Self-Employment Income Support Scheme

If you're self-employed or a member of a partnership and have been adversely affected by coronavirus (COVID-19) find out if you can use this scheme to claim a grant.  https://www.gov.uk/guidance/claim-a-grant-through-the-coronavirus-covid-19-self-employment-income-support-scheme

spencerrothchild

Catsacor said:

Thinking aloud here …..... if your wife could wear a visor, mask and gloves and provide mask and/or visor for client, could she carry out foot massage and pedicures …….she wouldn't be within inches of the clients face then,  if it's sunny and warm could it be done outside ???
Just wondered, sometimes thinking outside the box can be helpful …..

she does eyelash extensions 

so no that wouldn’t work

but thanks anyway 

Savvy_Sue

spencerrothchild said:

Catsacor said:

Thinking aloud here …..... if your wife could wear a visor, mask and gloves and provide mask and/or visor for client, could she carry out foot massage and pedicures …….she wouldn't be within inches of the clients face then,  if it's sunny and warm could it be done outside ???
Just wondered, sometimes thinking outside the box can be helpful …..

she does eyelash extensions 

so no that wouldn’t work

but thanks anyway 

If that's ALL she does, she might want to think about diversifying. I don't know, I've never had them done myself, but given that money is likely to be tight for everyone, how high up the priority list are eyelash extensions likely to be? 

No indication of what the UK will do, of course, but Germany is allowing hairdressers and barbers to start working soon, as long as both parties wear masks. Apparently they are fully booked for weeks already ... 

spencerrothchild

Savvy_Sue said:

spencerrothchild said:

Catsacor said:

Thinking aloud here …..... if your wife could wear a visor, mask and gloves and provide mask and/or visor for client, could she carry out foot massage and pedicures …….she wouldn't be within inches of the clients face then,  if it's sunny and warm could it be done outside ???
Just wondered, sometimes thinking outside the box can be helpful …..

she does eyelash extensions 

so no that wouldn’t work

but thanks anyway 

If that's ALL she does, she might want to think about diversifying. I don't know, I've never had them done myself, but given that money is likely to be tight for everyone, how high up the priority list are eyelash extensions likely to be? 

No indication of what the UK will do, of course, but Germany is allowing hairdressers and barbers to start working soon, as long as both parties wear masks. Apparently they are fully booked for weeks already ... 

she has customers asking her to do them but is it breaking the law right now?

Savvy_Sue

spencerrothchild said:

Savvy_Sue said:

spencerrothchild said:

Catsacor said:

Thinking aloud here …..... if your wife could wear a visor, mask and gloves and provide mask and/or visor for client, could she carry out foot massage and pedicures …….she wouldn't be within inches of the clients face then,  if it's sunny and warm could it be done outside ???
Just wondered, sometimes thinking outside the box can be helpful …..

she does eyelash extensions 

so no that wouldn’t work

but thanks anyway 

If that's ALL she does, she might want to think about diversifying. I don't know, I've never had them done myself, but given that money is likely to be tight for everyone, how high up the priority list are eyelash extensions likely to be? 

No indication of what the UK will do, of course, but Germany is allowing hairdressers and barbers to start working soon, as long as both parties wear masks. Apparently they are fully booked for weeks already ... 

she has customers asking her to do them but is it breaking the law right now?

Given that hairdressers and beauty salons have been REQUIRED to close, I can't imagine that those who offer such services at home visits are not covered by the same regulations.

I don't know what the law says, precisely. But did you not hear about the scientific adviser who's just had to stand down because his lover (separate household) came to visit him? - and I don't think it was a socially distant, garden-gate kind of visit. 

The whole point is that we keep our bugs to ourselves, and minimise our contact with other people who may have different bugs, including Covid 19. If your wife starts making home visits and comes into contact with someone who has the virus - and remember they may not have symptoms! - then she is likely to pass it on to her other clients, as well as to all of you at home. The infection rate is much much higher than for standard flu, which you might pass on to one other person. Also remember that although masks could be worn to cover face and nose, the virus may be lurking in our eyes - remember we're advised not to touch our faces or rub our eyes. 

If it were me, even if I COULD work, I'm not sure I'd choose to do so in the near future in that line of work. 

Andy_L

spencerrothchild said:

Savvy_Sue said:

spencerrothchild said:

Catsacor said:

Thinking aloud here …..... if your wife could wear a visor, mask and gloves and provide mask and/or visor for client, could she carry out foot massage and pedicures …….she wouldn't be within inches of the clients face then,  if it's sunny and warm could it be done outside ???
Just wondered, sometimes thinking outside the box can be helpful …..

she does eyelash extensions 

so no that wouldn’t work

but thanks anyway 

If that's ALL she does, she might want to think about diversifying. I don't know, I've never had them done myself, but given that money is likely to be tight for everyone, how high up the priority list are eyelash extensions likely to be? 

No indication of what the UK will do, of course, but Germany is allowing hairdressers and barbers to start working soon, as long as both parties wear masks. Apparently they are fully booked for weeks already ... 

she has customers asking her to do them but is it breaking the law right now?

The law is unclear. Beauty salons have to close, however beauty services in someone elses home arent a salon.

Andy_L

Savvy_Sue said:

spencerrothchild said:

Savvy_Sue said:

spencerrothchild said:

Catsacor said:

Thinking aloud here …..... if your wife could wear a visor, mask and gloves and provide mask and/or visor for client, could she carry out foot massage and pedicures …….she wouldn't be within inches of the clients face then,  if it's sunny and warm could it be done outside ???
Just wondered, sometimes thinking outside the box can be helpful …..

she does eyelash extensions 

so no that wouldn’t work

but thanks anyway 

If that's ALL she does, she might want to think about diversifying. I don't know, I've never had them done myself, but given that money is likely to be tight for everyone, how high up the priority list are eyelash extensions likely to be? 

No indication of what the UK will do, of course, but Germany is allowing hairdressers and barbers to start working soon, as long as both parties wear masks. Apparently they are fully booked for weeks already ... 

she has customers asking her to do them but is it breaking the law right now?

Given that hairdressers and beauty salons have been REQUIRED to close, I can't imagine that those who offer such services at home visits are not covered by the same regulations.

I don't know what the law says, precisely. But did you not hear about the scientific adviser who's just had to stand down because his lover (separate household) came to visit him? - and I don't think it was a socially distant, garden-gate kind of visit. 

The whole point is that we keep our bugs to ourselves, and minimise our contact with other people who may have different bugs, including Covid 19. If your wife starts making home visits and comes into contact with someone who has the virus - and remember they may not have symptoms! - then she is likely to pass it on to her other clients, as well as to all of you at home. The infection rate is much much higher than for standard flu, which you might pass on to one other person. Also remember that although masks could be worn to cover face and nose, the virus may be lurking in our eyes - remember we're advised not to touch our faces or rub our eyes. 

If it were me, even if I COULD work, I'm not sure I'd choose to do so in the near future in that line of work. 

Hmmm.
It differentiates between premesis and services hence, as I said, its vague and unclear

spencerrothchild

Savvy_Sue said:

spencerrothchild said:

Savvy_Sue said:

spencerrothchild said:

Catsacor said:

Thinking aloud here …..... if your wife could wear a visor, mask and gloves and provide mask and/or visor for client, could she carry out foot massage and pedicures …….she wouldn't be within inches of the clients face then,  if it's sunny and warm could it be done outside ???
Just wondered, sometimes thinking outside the box can be helpful …..

she does eyelash extensions 

so no that wouldn’t work

but thanks anyway 

If that's ALL she does, she might want to think about diversifying. I don't know, I've never had them done myself, but given that money is likely to be tight for everyone, how high up the priority list are eyelash extensions likely to be? 

No indication of what the UK will do, of course, but Germany is allowing hairdressers and barbers to start working soon, as long as both parties wear masks. Apparently they are fully booked for weeks already ... 

she has customers asking her to do them but is it breaking the law right now?

Given that hairdressers and beauty salons have been REQUIRED to close, I can't imagine that those who offer such services at home visits are not covered by the same regulations.

I don't know what the law says, precisely. But did you not hear about the scientific adviser who's just had to stand down because his lover (separate household) came to visit him? - and I don't think it was a socially distant, garden-gate kind of visit. 

The whole point is that we keep our bugs to ourselves, and minimise our contact with other people who may have different bugs, including Covid 19. If your wife starts making home visits and comes into contact with someone who has the virus - and remember they may not have symptoms! - then she is likely to pass it on to her other clients, as well as to all of you at home. The infection rate is much much higher than for standard flu, which you might pass on to one other person. Also remember that although masks could be worn to cover face and nose, the virus may be lurking in our eyes - remember we're advised not to touch our faces or rub our eyes. 

If it were me, even if I COULD work, I'm not sure I'd choose to do so in the near future in that line of work. 

Yo are right Sue but it’s so hard being without any income all this time

we are trying to get help from a food bank but they are overrun 

General_Grant

spencerrothchild said:

Catsacor said:

Thinking aloud here …..... if your wife could wear a visor, mask and gloves and provide mask and/or visor for client, could she carry out foot massage and pedicures …….she wouldn't be within inches of the clients face then,  if it's sunny and warm could it be done outside ???
Just wondered, sometimes thinking outside the box can be helpful …..

she does eyelash extensions 

so no that wouldn’t work

but thanks anyway 

What did she do before exclusively doing eyelash extensions?
What sort of work do you do?

Magnolia

Look - its simple - The Government website spells it out clearly!

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/further-businesses-and-premises-to-close/further-businesses-and-premises-to-close-guidance

To reduce social contact, the government has required by law the businesses and venues in the left-hand column to close to members of the public.
Hairdressers, barbers, beauty and nail salons, including piercing and tattoo parlours.

Like it or not - Your wife has a business whether it is salon based or mobile it is still a business and the rules say they must close - end of.