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Request LLs contact details?

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  • Slithery
    Slithery Posts: 6,046 Forumite
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    this is what they keep saying when requesting in writing for my LLs contact details-

    Thank you for your e-mail..

    Have you actually written to them (paper, envelope, stamp etc) requesting the details? This sounds like you've just emailed them...
  • Slithery
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    Dreambox said:
    davidmcn said:
    Yes, but if you've been told you can serve notices at the agent then that's s.48 satisfied - it doesn't require you to be told where the landlord actually lives.
    Yeah, they actually can't, because it would violate his privacy.
    It does require the landlords actual address to be given...


  • Comms69
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    Dreambox said:
    davidmcn said:
    Yes, but if you've been told you can serve notices at the agent then that's s.48 satisfied - it doesn't require you to be told where the landlord actually lives.
    Yeah, they actually can't, because it would violate his privacy.
    thats not true.

    and the rent must be paid aslong as an address has been supplied - that address can be any - including the agents
  • davidmcn
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    Slithery said:
    Dreambox said:
    davidmcn said:
    Yes, but if you've been told you can serve notices at the agent then that's s.48 satisfied - it doesn't require you to be told where the landlord actually lives.
    Yeah, they actually can't, because it would violate his privacy.
    It does require the landlords actual address to be given...
    Though note the definition of "address" from the Act:
    "“address” means a person’s place of abode or place of business or, in the case of a company, its registered office;"
  • I don’t even need his address a phone number or email would be sufficient 
  • So what is the actual law do they have to give me his details by law if I demand them or not?

    if they refuse are they breaking the law?
  • Comms69
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    So what is the actual law do they have to give me his details by law if I demand them or not?

    if they refuse are they breaking the law?
    Yes and Yes. But enforcing it is difficult 
  • theartfullodger
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    Comms69 said:
    Dreambox said:
    davidmcn said:
    Yes, but if you've been told you can serve notices at the agent then that's s.48 satisfied - it doesn't require you to be told where the landlord actually lives.
    Yeah, they actually can't, because it would violate his privacy.
    thats not true.

    and the rent must be paid aslong as an address has been supplied - that address can be any - including the agents
    For properties in England or Wales the s48 address must be one in England or Wales.  So if (as was the case for me when as a landlord living in Scotland) s48 could not be my home address, was c/o agent (entirely legal). But the s1 address had to be my Scottish address.

    Regarding land registry remember to be a landlord you don;t have to own a place, just have to authority to rent it out: As for example is the case for many "guaranteed rent" schemes/scams run by agents where the agent is (no, really is!) the landlord.

    Simply write to landlord at the address you have been given.



  • greatcrested
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    edited 30 April 2020 at 2:37PM
    Good grief! What a load of ****!
    48   Notification by landlord of address for service of notices.

    (1)A landlord of premises to which this Part applies shall by notice furnish the tenant with an address in England and Wales at which notices (including notices in proceedings) may be served on him by the tenant.

    (2)Where a landlord of any such premises fails to comply with subsection (1), any rent [F204, service charge or administration charge] otherwise due from the tenant to the landlord shall (subject to subsection (3)) be treated for all purposes as not being due from the tenant to the landlord at any time before the landlord does comply with that subsection.
    note: "an address" ie it need not be the LL's actual address.c/o the agent is fine provided that is in Eng/Wales.
    1 Disclosure of landlord’s identity.

    (1)If the tenant of premises occupied as a dwelling makes a written request for the landlord’s name and address to—

    (a)any person who demands, or the last person who received, rent payable under the tenancy, or

    (b)any other person for the time being acting as agent for the landlord, in relation to the tenancy,

    that person shall supply the tenant with a written statement of the landlord’s name and address within the period of 21 days beginning with the day on which he receives the request.

    (2)A person who, without reasonable excuse, fails to comply with subsection (1) commits a summary offence and is liable on conviction to a fine not exceeding level 4 on the standard scale.
    a) In your case I would write a letter. I would reference the LL & T Act and enclose a copy. Agents often don't know the law!
    b) enforcement is by Trading Standards. Even at the best of times they tend only to enforce in cases where there is particularly poor LL behavior, tather than just this one failure - they have limited resources. At present.....?
  • macman
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    edited 30 April 2020 at 2:58PM
    Have you looked at your tenancy agreement to see if the details are given there?
    Your LL is probably well aware already as to why you cannot pay your rent, but, since he cannot at present apply for a possession order, it makes little difference. Why not just write to the LA and ask them to forward it?
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
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