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Ashspider
Ashspider Posts: 15 Forumite
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edited 29 April 2020 at 4:00PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hi. Quick overview. I have received a county court claim totalling £1124.88 from CP Plus for 5 separate occasions of stopping over 2 hours at a Tesco carpark back in early 2018. I am the keeper of the vehicle in question but not the driver at the time.

I have read a lot of threads and have done the following:
1. Emailed CP Plus with a SAR request
2. Emailed DCB Legal who are acting for CP Plus stating I am waiting on info from CP Plus
3. Registered that I will be defending this on the Money Claim Online website.
I have started to prepare my defence as below. I have swiped a lot of it from Lamilad's threads so would appreciate any comments. I assume I wait until CP Plus get back to me with any info they have on me and then I do a part 18 request?? I have included section 7 the part 18 bit but it has not been edited yet.

Statement of Defence: Claim No. XXXXXXXX; Date: XXXXXX

It is admitted that Defendant is the registered keeper of the
vehicle in question.

However the Claimant has no cause of action against the Defendant
on the following grounds:-
1. The Defendant was not the driver of the vehicle on the date in
question.
2. The Protection of Freedom Act 2012 Schedule 4 has not being
complied with.
a) Notwithstanding that the Claimant claims no right to pursue the
Defendant as the registered keeper under PoFA, the Claimant has
failed to meet the conditions of the Act and has never acquired
any right to pursue the Defendant in this capacity if it cannot
identify the driver.
b) The keeper can only be held liable if the Claimant has fully
complied with the strict requirements including 'adequate notice'
of £100 charge and prescribed Notice to Keeper letters in time and
with mandatory wording
c) The claimant has no right to assert that the defendant is
liable based on ‘reasonable assumption’. PATAS and POPLA Lead
Adjudicator and barrister, Henry Michael Greenslade, clarified
that with regards to keeper liability, 'There is no ‘reasonable
presumption’ in law that the registered keeper of a vehicle is the
driver and operators should never suggest anything of the sort'
(2015).

3. This case can be distinguished from ParkingEye v Beavis [2015]
UKSC 67 (the Beavis case) which was dependent upon an undenied
contract, formed by unusually prominent signage forming a clear
offer and which turned on unique facts regarding the location and
the interests of the landholder. Strict compliance with the BPA
Code of Practice (CoP) was paramount and Mr Beavis was the driver
who saw the signs and entered into a contract to pay £85 after
exceeding a licence to park free. None of this applies in this
material case.

4. The signage on and around the site in question was small,
unclear and not prominent and did not meet the British Parking
Association (BPA) Code of Practice or the Independent Parking
Committee (IPC) Code of Practice. The Claimant was a member of the
IPC at the time and committed to follow its requirements. The
claimant was also formerly a member of the BPA, whose requirements
they also did not follow. Therefore no contract has been formed
with driver to pay £100, or any additional fee charged if unpaid
in 28 days.

5. It is denied that the Claimant has authority to bring this
claim. The proper Claimant is the landholder. Strict proof is
required that there is a chain of contracts leading from the
landholder to CP Plus T/A Group Nexus.
a) CP Plus T/A Group Nexus is not the lawful occupier of the
land
b) Absent a contract with the lawful occupier of the land being
produced by the claimant, or a chain of contracts showing
authorisation stemming from the lawful occupier of the land, I
have the reasonable belief that they do not have the authority to
issue charges on this land in their own name and that they have no
locus standi to bring this case.

6. No sum payable to this Claimant was accepted nor even known
about by any driver; as they were not given a fair opportunity to
discover the onerous terms by which they would later be bound.

7. The claimant has yet to respond to part 18 Request sent by
the defendant to BW Legal and Excel Parking Services Ltd on the
xx/06/2016.
a) A request to explain if Excel Parking Services Ltd are making a
claim as an agent of the landowner or making the claim as occupier
in their own right.
b) A request to explain if the amount claimed by Excel Parking
Services Ltd is for a breach of contract or a contractual sum.
c) A request to provide copies of the signs on which Excel Parking
Services Ltd rely and confirm the signs were in situ on the date
of the event. Also to provide the date the signs were installed.
d) A request to confirm that the signs were at the entrance to the
site on the date in question. Also to confirm that the signs meet
the British Parking Association's Code of Practice Appendix B
(Entrance signs) or the Independent Parking Committee’s Schedule
1.


8. The amount is a penalty, and the penalty rule is still engaged,
so can be clearly distinguished from ParkingEye v Beavis which the
Judges held was 'entirely different' from most ordinary economic
contract disputes for the following reasons:-
a) The Claimant has no commercial justification
b) The Claimant did not follow the IPC or BPA Code of Practice
c) The Claimant is not the landholder and suffers no loss
whatsoever as a result of a vehicle parking at the location in
question
d) The amount claimed is a charge and evidently disproportionate
to any loss suffered by the Claimant and is therefore
unconscionable.
e) The Court of Appeal for the Beavis case made a clear reference
to the fact that their decision was NOT relevant to pay-per-hour
type car parks.

9. The Protection of Freedoms Act does not permit the Claimant to
recover a sum greater than the parking charge on the day before a
Notice to Keeper was issued. The Claimant cannot recover
additional charges. The Defendant also has the reasonable belief
that the Claimant has not incurred the stated additional costs and
it is put to strict proof that they have actually been incurred.
Even if they have been incurred, the Claimant has described them
as 'Legal representative’s costs'. These cannot be recovered in
the Small Claims Court regardless of the identity of the driver.

10. If the driver on the date of the event was considered to be a
trespasser if not allowed to park there, then only the landholder
can pursue a case under the tort of trespass, not this Claimant,
and as the Supreme Court in the Beavis case confirmed, such a
matter would be limited to the landholder themselves claiming for
a nominal sum.

11. Save as expressly mentioned above, the Particulars of Claim is
denied in its entirety. It is denied that the Claimant is entitled
to the relief claimed or any relief at all.

Therefore I ask the court to respectfully strike out this claim
with immediate effect.

I believe that the facts stated in this Statement of defence on
XX/XX/XX are true.

Signed: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Thanks for reading.


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  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    They are obvioulsly claiming for unlawful amounts, have you read this.

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal]

    Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP., it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and in some cases, cancellation.

    Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

    Hopefully life will become impossible for the worst of these scammers, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/of these Private Parking Companies.


    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.









    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    There is no part 18 afaik

    My advice ? Start again

    Find and use the Feb 2020 template defence by coupon mad , adapting 2 paragraphs

    Make sure you include the April 2020 statement of truth , not the old one above

    Post the issue date from the CCBC claim form below
  • Ashspider
    Ashspider Posts: 15 Forumite
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    Cheers Redx. Don't know how I missed it but it has been 4 hours browsing. Think I need a break
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    lol , and the claim date is ??????? .......................................zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,066 Forumite
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    edited 30 April 2020 at 1:22AM
    We need the date issued, from the claim form please.

    Your defence needs it stated clearly from the start, in #1 of the template (add some words there) that the Defendant was not the driver and the Claimant has failed to use the only applicable law for keeper liability, and thus the claim fails on liability.

    Change the wording for #2 so that it talks about adding £60 (or have they added £70?) per PCN, given that this is about multiple ones.  Change the words 'parking charge' to the plural throughout the template.


    Then when you edit the red bits of the new template defence, at #16 & #17, have this and change to 'she' (of course) if you are female:

    16.    The facts are that more than one family member was insured to drive that vehicle at that time and whilst the Defendant was the keeper, he is prepared to swear on oath if necessary, that he was not the driver.   Notwithstanding that the Claimant claims no right to pursue the Defendant as the registered keeper under PoFA, the Claimant has failed to meet the conditions of the Act and has never acquired any right to pursue the Defendant in this capacity if it cannot identify the driver.  The keeper can only be held liable if the Claimant has fully complied with the strict requirements including 'adequate notice' of £100 charge and prescribed Notice to Keeper letters in time and with mandatory wording.   The claim fails on all counts.

    17.   In anticipation of a misguided template argument about the doctrine of agency, or reliance upon a completely different and irrelevant criminal case trotted out by parking firms (Elliott v Loake), the Defendant rebuts this and avers that this Claimant has no right to assert that the Defendant is liable based on some sort of ‘reasonable assumption’ that they were driving.  A keeper cannot 'prove a negative' several years after an event when they know they were not driving, due to the parking location, and the burden of evidence rests with the Claimant to prove their claim.  The POFA exists for a reason and this Claimant has actively chosen not to avail themselves of the 'keeper liability' provisions that have existed since 2012.  Parking law expert barrister (erstwhile PATAS and POPLA Lead Adjudicator) Henry Michael Greenslade, clarified in an official industry article called 'UNDERSTANDING KEEPER LIABILITY' that on private land:  'There is no ‘reasonable presumption’ in law that the registered keeper of a vehicle is the driver and operators should never suggest anything of the sort' (ref: POPLA Annual Report 2015).

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  • Ashspider
    Ashspider Posts: 15 Forumite
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    Apologies in not acknowledging your advice. It's been a bit of a torrid time the last 3 week with what's going on in the world.
    The claim date was the 28/04/20 so by my reckoning I have till 30/05/20 - 33 days later to file my defence. I'll post it tonight when I'm home for viewing if you could cast your expert eyes over it.
  • KeithP
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    edited 21 May 2020 at 3:34PM
    Ashspider said:
    The claim date was the 28/04/20 so by my reckoning I have till 30/05/20 - 33 days later to file my defence.
    With a Claim Issue Date of 28th April, you had until Monday 18th May to file an Acknowledgment of Service. Please confirm that you did file an AoS before last Monday. 

    Assuming an Acknowledgment of Service was filed in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Monday 1st June 2020 to file your Defence.
    That's over a week away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence, but please don't leave it to the last minute.

    To file a Defence, follow the guidance in this post:

    Guidance on creating a Defence is also in that thread - in the first post on that thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.
  • Ashspider
    Ashspider Posts: 15 Forumite
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    Yes I did an AoS with the MCOL in the first five days.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Ashspider said:
    Yes I did an AoS with the MCOL in the first five days.
    Oh, that's not so good. When exactly did you file an AoS?
    Your MCOL Claim History will have the definitive answer.

    You may have shortened the time available to file a Defence by a few days.
  • Ashspider
    Ashspider Posts: 15 Forumite
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    Ah oh dear. I did it on the 29/04/20.With looking through all the info I must have misread after 5 days as within 5 days.Do you know how long it will shorten it by? 
    Below is my draft defence. Please feel free to comment good or bad.

     

    DEFENCE

    __________

     

     

    1.        The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.  It is denied that the driver of the vehicle entered into any contractual agreement, whether express, implied, or by conduct, to pay a ‘parking charge’ to the Claimant.

    Parking Charge Reference:

    Taken out at the minute

     

     

    1.1.     Whilst it is admitted that the Defendant was the keeper, they were not the driver of

    the vehicle at the time.  Further, the mandatory requirements to establish 'keeper      liability' have not been met and the Defendant is not liable in law.

           

     

    2.       In relation to parking on private land, it is settled law from the Supreme Court, that a parking charge must be set at a level which includes recovery of the costs of operating a scheme.  However, this Claimant is claiming a global sum of £1124.88. This figure is a penalty, far exceeding the £85 parking charge in the ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis case. 

     

     

    3.       The global sum claimed is unconscionable and it was not shown in large lettering on any consumer signs, and it is averred that the charge offends against Schedule 2 of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (‘the CRA’), where s71(2) creates a duty on the Court to consider the fairness of a consumer contract.  The court’s attention is drawn (but not limited to) parts 6, 10, 14 and 18 of the list of terms that are likely to be unfair.

     

     

    4.       Even if the Claimant had shown the global sum claimed in the largest font on clear and prominent signs - which is denied - they are attempting double recovery of costs. The sum exceeds the maximum amount which can be recovered from a registered keeper, as prescribed in Schedule 4, Section 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (‘the POFA’).  It is worth noting that in the Beavis case where the driver was known, the Supreme Court considered and referred more than once to the POFA.

     

     

    5.       Claims pleaded on this basis by multiple parking firms have routinely been struck out ab initio in various County Court areas in England and Wales since 2019.  Recent examples are appended to this defence; a February 2020 Order from District Judge Fay Wright, sitting at Skipton County Court (Appendix A)  and a similar Order from Deputy District Judge Josephs, sitting at Warwick County Court (Appendix B).

     

     

    6.       Applications by AOS member parking firms to try to reach the usually low threshold to set aside multiple strike-out orders have been reviewed by more than one area Circuit Judge, including His Honour Iain Hughes QC, occasioning District Judge Grand at Southampton to hear submissions from a barrister on 11th November 2019. The court refused to set aside the Orders and, tellingly, no appeal was made. 

     

     

    7.       The Judge found that the claims - both trying to claim £160, with some ten or more similar cases stayed - represented an abuse of process that ‘tainted’ each claim.  It was held to be not in the public interest for a court to let such claims proceed and merely disallow £60 in a case-by-case basis, thus restricting and reserving the proper application of the relevant consumer rights legislation only for those relatively few consumers who reach hearing stage.  That Judgment is appended (Appendix C).

     

    8.       The CCBC and/or the allocated Court Judge is invited to read the Appendices at the earliest opportunity.  The Defendant avers that parking firm claims which add a duplicitous ‘costs’ sum to the parking charge are now easily identified to be unlawful. Such claims are against the public interest, requiring no further assessment, and listing such cases for trial should be avoided.  The Court is invited to exercise its case management powers pursuant to CPR 3.4 to strike out this claim, which is entirely tainted by abuse of process and breaches of the CRA.

     

     

    9.       Should this claim continue, the Claimant will no doubt try to mislead the court by pointing to their Trade Association ‘ATA’ Code of Practice (‘CoP’) that now includes a hastily-added clause 'allowing' added costs/damages.  The Defendant points out that the CoP is a self-serving document, written in the parking firms’ interests. Further, the ‘admin fee’ model was reportedly invented by a member of the British Parking Association Board, Gary Osner, whose previous firm, Roxburghe (UK) Limited, folded after being declared ‘unfit’ by the Office of Fair Trading who refused to renew their consumer credit licence due to ‘unfair and misleading’ business practices. Mr Osner states in an article that has been in the public domain since 2018: ''I created the model of ‘admin fees’ for debt recovery because ticket value was so low that nobody would make any money. Parking is business and business is about money, after all.''  

     

     

    10.   The two competing ‘race to the bottom’ ATAs have engineered a veil of legitimacy to protect this industry for too long.  They are not regulators and have failed consumers so badly, that Parliament is currently working on replacing them with a new CoP overseen by the Secretary of State, following the enactment of the Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019.  Many courts have now recognised that a predatory parking firm Claimant using unfair and predatory business practices and inflating their claims with false ‘admin fees’, is not the ‘innocent party’ in a dispute.  In stark contrast to the BPA Board member’s mindset, the will of Parliament as set out in the new 2019 Act is very much consumer-focussed, aiming for:  ''good practice...in the operation or management of private parking facilities as appears to the Secretary of State to be desirable having regard to the interests of persons using such facilities.''  

     

    11.   In the alternative, the defence is prejudiced and the court is invited to note that, contrary to the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, the Letter Before Claim omitted evidence of any breach and failed to append the wording of the sign or consumer notice.  Further, the Particulars of Claim are embarrassing and incoherent, lacking specificity re the location of the event and status of the contracting parties and failing to detail any conduct or liability that could give rise to a cause of action.  There is insufficient detail to ascertain the nature, basis and facts of the case but the sum claimed includes unrecoverable costs/damages and is clearly an abuse of process.

     

     

    12.   The court is invited to note that the Beavis case would not have passed had it been pleaded in damages by ParkingEye, and the penalty rule applies to charges that are penal or unconscionable in their construction.  The Supreme Court held at [14] ‘‘where a contract contains an obligation on one party to perform an act, and also provides that, if he does not perform it, he will pay the other party a specified sum of money, the obligation to pay the specified sum is a secondary obligation which is capable of being a penalty.’’  And at [99] ‘‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged.’’

     

     

    13.   Unlike in this case, ParkingEye demonstrated a commercial justification for their £85 parking charge which included all operational costs and was constructed in such a way and offered on such ‘brief and clear’ signs with terms set in the interests of the landowner, that they were able to overcome the real possibility of the charge being struck out as penal and unrecoverable.  The unintended consequence is that, rather than persuade courts considering other cases that all parking charges are automatically justified, the Beavis case facts and pleadings set a high bar that other claims fail to reach.  Unusually for this industry, it is worth noting that ParkingEye do not add false ‘debt letter costs/damages’ to their parking charges and as a consequence, their own claims have escaped any reports of being summarily struck out.

     

     

    14.    This Claimant has failed to plead their case, or to set out their terms or construct their contractual charges in the same way as in Beavis and the penalty rule remains firmly engaged.  Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of an overriding legitimate interest in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach.  The intention cannot be to punish drivers nor to present a motorist with concealed pitfalls or traps, nor to claim an unconscionable total sum.

     

     

    15.   Should this poorly pleaded claim not be summarily struck out for any/all of the reasons stated above, the Defendant sets out this defence as clearly as possible in the circumstances, insofar as the facts below are known.

     

    16.  The Defendant is not the main/only driver of this vehicle and has no knowledge of any parking charge notice (‘PCN’) or letters. It is not established thus far, whether the car was parked, or just stopped momentarily and caught by predatory ticketing.  It is not accepted that the location included prominent signs giving ‘adequate notice’ of the onerous parking charge. A compliant Notice to Keeper (‘NTK’) was not properly served in strict accordance with section 8 or 9 (as the case may be) of the POFA.

     

     

    17.    The Claimant’s signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, such that they would be considered incapable of binding any person reading them under common contract law, and would also be considered void pursuant to Schedule 2 of the CRA. Consequently, it is the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous penalty was entered into with the Claimant, whether express, implied, or by conduct.

     

     

    18.   The Beavis case is fully distinguished and a more relevant list of binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of an onerous parking charge, would include:

    (i) Spurling v Bradshaw [1956] 1 WLR 461 and (ii) Thornton v Shoe Lane Parking Ltd  [1970] EWCA Civ 2, both leading examples of the ‘red hand’ rule - i.e. that an unseen/hidden clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and

    (iii) Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where the Court of Appeal held that it was unsurprising that the appellant did not see the sign ''in view of the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the southern parking space''.

     

     

    19.    Further and in the alternative, the Claimant is put to strict proof that it has sufficient proprietary interest in the land, or the necessary landowner authorisation to issue PCNs under these circumstances and to pursue keepers by means of civil litigation. 

    It is not accepted that the Claimant has adhered to the landholder's definitions, exemptions, grace period, other terms (or instructions to cancel charges due to a surge of complaints) and there is no evidence that the freeholder authorises this particular Claimant (Companies House lists their company number as 11309569).  Any purported landowner 'contract' which fails to properly identify the two contracting parties and/or which is in any way redacted (including the signatories, which in some parking claims have been revealed not to be that of the landowner) should be disregarded, along with any undated and/or unsubstantiated records, documents, boundary maps or aerial views, or photos which are capable of manipulation.

     

     

    20.   For any or all of the reasons stated above, the Court is invited to dismiss this claim.

     

    21.    In the matter of costs.  If the claim is not struck out, the Defendant seeks:

    (a) standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and

    (b) the Court to reserve, assess and award the Defendant’s Summary Costs Assessment, to be filed and served at Witness Statement stage in anticipation of a typical late Notice of Discontinuance (‘NoD’) from this Claimant.

     

    22.   At NoD stage, or at a hearing if the case proceeds that far, the Court will be taken to facts to support a finding of wholly unreasonable conduct by this Claimant.  Pursuant to CPR 46.5, whilst indemnity costs cannot exceed two thirds of the applicable rate if using legal representation, the Defendant notes that LiP costs are not necessarily capped at £19 ph.  The Defendant will ask for a fairly assessed rate for the hours spent on this case, referencing Spencer & anor v Paul Jones Financial Services Ltd.

     

     

    23.   In summary, the Claimant's Particulars disclose no legal basis for the sum claimed. This Claimant knew, or should have known, that an exaggerated ‘parking charge’ claim where the alleged ‘debt’ exceeds the £100 ATA CoP ceiling is disallowed under the CPRs, the Beavis case, the POFA and the CRA,  The Judge in the instant case is taken to the Appendices, demonstrating that several court areas continue to summarily strike out private parking cases that include an extravagant and unlawful costs sum.

     

    Statement of Truth

    I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.


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