Renovating the toilet

Cpu2007

Hi

I'm looking to renovate my toilet

It's a small place but I feel like if I keep it simple, I might be able to get the most out of it

I hope someone can help me with this

The size of the toilet is approx 

Lenght: 255cm

Width: 95cm

Height:235cm

What I'm looking to do is add:

- add a small wet room

- a vanity storage sink

- a normal or back to wall WC

- tile the whole floor

- Either tile half or full walls

- Either paint or add panel on ceiling

My concern are 

I feel the wet room is ideam for such a small space but the panel enclosing the wet room has to be half the size of the width(42.5cm) I'm not sure if that's long enough, having a bigger panel might make it difficult to enter the wet room

The other option is to have a slightly bigger glass panel but hinged so it closes inwards? but I'm not sure if this is feasable or where to get it.

I'd like a back to wall WC, it will save space but the condern is that I'll have to drill through the wall, this wall is thick enough but is the outer wall of the house, is it a good idea to make a big sqaure hole in these kind of walls?

I'm located in Manchester and started searching for plumbers and all the stuff that I need for the toilet but I'll really appreciate if someone could provide other places (other than ikea, B&Q etc.) that provide quality affordable furniture

Any idea on how much should the labour for this work will cost if person doing the work only needs to count for material cost(piping, wiring, cement etc)?

I've also added a layout of what I'm looking for in my toilet

Doozergirl

I've done dozens of these. 

Not a wet room, a 90cm square tray with a bifold or preferably a hinged door with a small (25cm) fixed panel on the sink side.  

No chance on the vanity.  25cm deep sink.  Put a cabinet over it if you want the storage.  You need the space underneath for potential knees and just a feeling of 'some' space. 

A back to wall loo cannot be put into a wall. You have to bring the wall (or unit) at least 20cm forward.   The top can hold bottles etc. 

It is just about do-able.  Room door opens outwards as you have pictured, do not buy a bifold door.  It's a finger trap and they feel really cheap.  

FreeBear

Doozergirl said: No chance on the vanity.  25cm deep sink.  Put a cabinet over it if you want the storage.

I'd agree - No where near enough space for a vanity unit. I'd perhaps look at a small storage space either side of the toilet (position it centrally on that wall).

Cpu2007

Thank you so much guys, that's some very useful advice I've got there
I did a test with a vanity sink and you're right, these are usually 50-60cm deep, leaving roughly 30cm space to stand, it will feel awful
When you say 25cm deep, do you mean how deep the sink is (I mean the height of it) or the depth as in from wall to outward?
We already have sink 25cm in depth and around 30cm in width but these are too small reason why I want something bigger so water doesn't spill out( trying to make this as functional as possible so it can be used for washing your face, shaving  etc)
In regards to the shower, I agree a wet room doesn't sound ideal, a shower box seems a better option, I'm just thinking whether 90cm width(from wall to door) is spacious enough, I have around 100cm width I can potentially use that unless you're saying this might give the impression there's no space to move in the toilet
great, I'll start looking for WCs that come with cisterns 

Doozergirl

The depth of something is the measurement from front to back as you stand in front of it.  The other measurements as you face it are height and width, hopefully self explanatory if depth is front to back.  

So I mean 25cm deep basin from front to back.  There are 50cm width wall hung basins that will better fit hands in. I agree that 30cm is frustratingly tiny.   

90cm is a good minimum depth/width for a shower tray.  If you can get 100cm wide (not deep!) then that is great,  but do not increase the depth beyond 90cm in a 235cm space.  You are at the bare minimum right now...  

90cm tray plus 50cm basin plus 70cm (ish) loo equals 210cm.    That's not a lot to play with!! 

Cpu2007

I'll check the 90cm measurements and see if it feels ok
I know quite a few places but I'll be honest, in some cases it's very expensive for glass with a panel
For example I found this
https://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/merlyn-ionic-express-bifold-shower-door
Bifold, but it has panels on both sides(is this what you meant?

Would you be able to recommend places where I can get these shower enclosures and bathroom furniture in general?
how much do you think this kind of work should cost in terms of labour?
Thanks

Doozergirl

Like this one. 

https://www.aqva.co.uk/Bathrooms/149762

Fixed panel on the side where the sink is.  

But yes, what you have is fine, I'm just not a fan of shower doors on sliding rails as there's so many nooks and crannies to clean.  

I use Victorian Plumbing a bit for certain brands.  If you want advice then a friendly local plumbers merchant will let you know what lasts but maybe hasn't got a brand price tag attached.  

Connie_Anaya

Small piece of advice from personal experience - get a dehumidifier! The room is very small, humidity is dangerously high with bathrooms for obvious reasons, and you can't rely on a single means to get rid of condensate. There are specialty units for bathrooms, but I'd recommend you go for one with a bigger capacity. Not as big as a basement dehumidifier cause you'd be wasting space and it wouldn't work to its full potential, but nothing too small cause it won't remove as much moisture as you need.

Doozergirl

The room should have a proper extractor fan, venting to air outside the building.   It's a basic need to meet building regulations.   

Ones that have humidity sensors and continue to run for as long as they detect high humidity are best.  

bob_a_builder

"The depth of something is the measurement from front to back as you stand in front of it.  " 

Not in a swimming pool, its not ! ;-)   ............................. I'll get my coat ....

FreeBear

bob_a_builder said: "The depth of something is the measurement from front to back as you stand in front of it.  " 

Not in a swimming pool, its not ! ;-)   ............................. I'll get my coat ....

/me steps to one side and lobs a brick (semtex) in Doozergirl's handbag ....