Jsa boosted money?

preables

I am still on jsa as they never changed me to universal credit but my friends have told me due to covid 19 they get extra money on uc! Is it the same for jobseekers? If so do I have to call them? 

poppy12345

No, those that claim the legacy benefits such as JSA/ESA will not receive the extra money. It's for those claiming UC/working tax credits only. For UC it's added to the standard allowance for 1 year.

epm-84

poppy12345 said:

No, those that claim the legacy benefits such as JSA/ESA will not receive the extra money. It's for those claiming UC/working tax credits only. For UC it's added to the standard allowance for 1 year.

While I agree the increase is just for UC, it should be noted income based JSA is a legacy benefit being replaced by UC.  Contribution based JSA has been replaced by 'new style JSA', which will just be called JSA once income based JSA has been completely withdrawn - it will never become part of UC, which is an income based benefit.  Those on 'new style JSA' have to undertake actions which people claiming UC also have to do but that those claiming old JSA don't.

ex-homelessdude2

preables said:

I am still on jsa as they never changed me to universal credit but my friends have told me due to covid 19 they get extra money on uc! Is it the same for jobseekers? If so do I have to call them? 

im in the same boat, been ringing them last couple days but they just hangup. just a couple of non dwp articles stating theyre not giving £20 to jsa/esa.
disgusting theyre using a pandemic to bullying ppl onto UC, especially considering they cant cope with increased amount of applicants.

Nannytone

The extra payment is meant to be be for people that work and they had a large drop in income. The fact that some people on Universal Credit that don't work had an increase is just there good luck. You don't need to change your claim to universal credit if you don't want to

Spoonie_Turtle

Nannytone said:

The extra payment is meant to be be for people that work and they had a large drop in income. The fact that some people on Universal Credit that don't work had an increase is just there good luck. You don't need to change your claim to universal credit if you don't want to

Completely agree, though unfortunately there is an unintended extra cost to the pandemic with no longer being able to buy groceries and other staple items either in bulk or multibuy offers, on which many people relied to get them through the month - so for those without the larger increase it will be harder. But then those who have been furloughed with a lower wage coming in and not on any increased benefits will be struggling too.

sparkycat2

Nannytone said:

The extra payment is meant to be be for people that work and they had a large drop in income. The fact that some people on Universal Credit that don't work had an increase is just there good luck. 

Yeah because you cannot expect all those hard working taxpayers who now find themselves reliant on state support to survive on normal benefits like £73 JSA for the unemployed, £73 ESA for the disabled, or £66 carer's allowance. No, no they need up to £2,500 a month Job Furlough, or at least £93 a week Universal Credit, money is no object in support of them because they are the most in need, the most vulnerable, not say those on less money who are unable to work due to disability or being full time carers or losing their job before recent events, they are the undeserving poor. 

Nannytone

I am disabled and unable to work and live on benefits.
But I am not used to having a decent income or a mortgage or debt that I could afford because I was earning enough money.
In the majority of these people are the ones that pay their tax that pays our benefit

sparkycat2

Nannytone said:

I am disabled and unable to work and live on benefits.
But I am not used to having a decent income or a mortgage or debt that I could afford because I was earning enough money.
In the majority of these people are the ones that pay their tax that pays our benefit

And throughout history before the Coronavirus no one who had a decent income, mortgage or debt ever became unemployed, unable to work due to disability or had to give up working to care for someone. So before this crisis there was no need for people to  have job furloughs or an extra £20 a week of benefits. Because they all choose to be poor rather than suffered a massive drop in income due to circumstances beyond their control. And its not like they were ever taxpayers. 

And it is not like people on £73 JSA or £73 ESA or £66 Carer's Allowance are struggling to survive. Why many go to food banks for the fun of it. And its not like the surge in suicides amongst benefit claimants in recent years has anything to do with poverty. 

Nannytone

The only people that are guaranteed to lose money during the pandemic are those that are having to stop working during it. My money hasn't changed.
Are the people receiving more doesn't change my circumstances.
Maybe people should stop bleating let someone is getting more than then and realise but under current circumstances are lucky to be alive I've

Spoonie_Turtle

sparkycat2 I understand your frustration but that is a separate discussion. This particular *temporary* increase is for a specific purpose, and people who have not had a huge drop in income due to the pandemic aren't included in that purpose (those on UC who were already not working are an accidental side-effect - it would take an entire extra system to sort out who did and didn't qualify for the extra help and quite honestly the entire UC system cannot cope anyway, with all the new applications).

Btw, the furlough scheme is not '£2500 per month' - it's up to 80% of their normal wage but capped at £2500. Those people are all losing money too, but the idea is that they can then still hopefully survive.

What happens when this is all over, nobody knows - nobody knows where all this money is coming from. It is temporary, an emergency measure, and the aftermath will have to be sorted out later. But those of us already surviving on benefits already have cut costs, know how to live frugally, and haven't had to worry too much more overall, financially anyway - and our benefits aren't going to suddenly disappear at the end of this. For all those furloughed employees and supported self-employed people, there is no certainty that there will be enough business for things to resume as normal when we come out the other side.