CEL COURT HEARING NOW BEING HEARD OVER TELEPHONE DUE TO COVID 19 PANDEMIC.

D_P_Dance

I do not write this for the servants Henrik.  In any case, complaining costs next to nothing 

beamerguy

D_P_Dance said:

I do not write this for the servants Henrik.  In any case, complaining costs next to nothing 

As you say .....
You never know how far you can go until you go too far.

Le_Kirk

Found this by asking Auntie Google
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/76896940#Comment_76896940

24. In Simon Clay v Civil Enforcement Ltd, Case No: D9QZ9E8Q, (JD/20: Bundle of Authorities) heard at High Wycombe in 2018, this same Claimant was successfully sued by a motorist for £200 in damages and the claim revolved around exposing that Civil Enforcement Ltd ('CEL') had no authority flowing from the landholder to their company........

Snakes_Belly

The Judiciary are quite protected and the only courses of action are to appeal or draw a line under it and write it off to experience. 

When someone appeals do they still have to pay for permission to appeal or just if the appeal goes ahead?

D_P_Dance

The Judiciary are quite protected and the only courses of action are to appeal 

I disagree.  In July  2018  I was badly served by a judge.  I wrote to him three times and he ignored my letters.  I then complained to my  MP, the result was that I received an apology and cheque for £100.  

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/15/disgraced-barrister-constance-briscoe-penniless-chris-huhnehttps://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/jan/11/cherieblair.politics

NEVER EVER ASSUME THAT JUDGES ARE ABOVE. THE LAW.
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Snakes_Belly

I don't assume that judges are above the law but they are protected in carrying out their role. In the case that you cited the judge/barrister was a witness.

Snakes_Belly

If permission to appeal can be requested without any costs it may be worth seeing if permission would be granted and then taking a view. 

D_P_Dance

We can argue this until the end of time.  The fact remains that a well written well argues properly target complaInt can and Does achieve the desired result.  

Snakes_Belly

There may be some mileage in writing to the court and complaining about not being able to have an oral hearing. The defendant  may have felt that the telephone hearing was detrimental.  They may get any appeal fees waived.  The defendant did not want an oral hearing. It does sound as if the judge could not be a--ed. 

I don't think though that they will be able to bypass an appeal. In an appeal though you can ask for the case to be re-heard.

ncw2509

I have got the bit between my teeth now, and the more I think about it, the more I have the urge to appeal - assuming it's only going to be £120 fee,  and no hidden costs which the claimant could then claw back if it went to a re-hearing (I certainly wouldn't want any nasty surprises).
I sent the court an email two  days before the telephone hearing which contained the hyperlink to the Kelvin Reynolds article, and asked that the article be made available to the DJ before the hearing.. I had a read receipt from the court for this..
This article was also documented in my defense.
Unfortunately, I didn't refer to this document in the hearing - the DJ was clearly "mind made up", after interpreting the grace periods from the COP's.
Just wish I could get my eyes on landowner authority!!