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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,736 Forumite
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    edited 5 April 2020 at 5:03PM
    What you are describing is the template defence, not bargepole's concise older one.  So you have the right one which is good.
    Should I leave this paragraph in as written? 
    paragraph 16 (beginning ‘The Defendant is not the main/only driver of this vehicle and has no knowledge of any parking charge notice (‘PCN’) or letters’)
    The template comments there already say ''DO NOT USE THIS'' unless it is true. 
    Which it is not, in your case. You DO have knowledge of the PCN and YOU were the driver and there's no reason to pretend otherwise, in your case by talking about other possible drivers.

    I rang their general enquiry number to try and pay by mistake. They told me if I could prove I’d rung that number I’d be let off any charge.

    They lied; this is b@ll@cks from them. You could mention it as your para 16 though and admit to driving and say what happened.  But not using ''I'' or ''me'' of course, as you've seen the defence is written in the third person, so yours would be along the lines: 'The Defendant was the driver and the Defendant tried to use all avilable methods to pay...blah blah...what happened was...blah blah...and the Claimant already knows this because the Defendant appealed and this was refused outright, despite the failure being with the Claimant's system..''.

    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 154,736 Forumite
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    Which car park is this?  Some of them have VCS signage, not Excel, which is a BIG defence point.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Olibird
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    Which car park is this?  Some of them have VCS signage, not Excel, which is a BIG defence point.
    It is The Square shopping centre in Chorlton, Manchester managed by Excel
  • Redx
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    edited 5 April 2020 at 6:33PM
    so the one leased by Excel from Tameside Council , managed by Excel , a well known honeytrap and rat run


  • Olibird
    Olibird Posts: 30 Forumite
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    Redx said:
    so the one leased by Excel from Tameside Council , managed by Excel , a well known honeytrap and rat run

    Yes, from Greater Manchester Pensión Fund (which is managed by Tameside I think)
  • Olibird
    Olibird Posts: 30 Forumite
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    The box in the MCOL for the defence only allows 122 lines. Any suggestions? Précis the bargepole defence and email the full version?
  • Umkomaas
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    Olibird said:
    The box in the MCOL for the defence only allows 122 lines. Any suggestions? Précis the bargepole defence and email the full version?
    All covered in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, second post.  You are not filling in that box!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • KeithP
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    edited 5 April 2020 at 9:24PM
    Last Tuesday I wrote on your very own thread...
    Again only yesterday I wrote exactly the same thing.

    Why are you not reading the guidance freely given?

    Please also read Umkomaas' post of 4 April at 9:04PM <<<=== that's a link. Click on it.
  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    as above , you are ignoring previous replies

    KeithP told you what to do in one of his posts on page 1 of this thread

    try to stick to what people are telling you , or if you continue to ignore excellent advice you may find it happening to you when you need it most , people replied because you needed help and advice, use it
  • Olibird
    Olibird Posts: 30 Forumite
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    I have an N180 to fill in which I intend to email but I do not know how to find a version I can type in, any suggestions? This is the one I’ve found so far but I can’t type in it as it is.
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