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Multiple Parking fines - NCP / Trace debt recovery and BW Legal

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  • hayd555
    hayd555 Posts: 47 Forumite
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    Update from SRA:

    Report about BW Legal Services Limited

     

    You were previously corresponding with my colleague Andrew Cooksey in relation to your report about BW Legal Services Limited (BW Legal). However, this matter was recently reallocated to me for consideration. I am writing to inform you that our investigation has concluded and, we have decided not to take any formal regulatory action.

     

    In addition to your report, we have received a number of other reports about the way BW Legal recovers debts on behalf of its clients. These reports all raised concerns about the inclusion of an additional £60 charge during the debt recovery process for “initial legal costs”. Specifically, the reports raised concerns that the additional charge may not be legally recoverable.

     

    During our investigation, we have spoken to BW Legal to help us understand how it operates. Having done so, we understand that BW Legal believes that the additional charge is legally recoverable.

     

    It is not the SRA’s role to make a finding on whether the additional charge is legally recoverable, this is a matter for the courts to consider. However, the courts do not appear to have made a conclusive finding on this matter.

     

    Without a conclusive finding, there is no evidence to demonstrate that BW Legal has failed to comply with our standards. For this reason, we have decided to conclude our investigation. Although we will be concluding our investigation, should the courts make a conclusive finding in the future, we may engage with BW Legal further about this matter.

     

    Thank you for taking the time to contact us with your information. You may find it helpful to refer to the consumer section of our website for further information about our approach to regulation – sra.org.uk/consumers/problems/report-solicitor.


  • Le_Kirk
    Le_Kirk Posts: 25,663 Forumite
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    The terms whitewash and sweeping under the carpet or too hard pile (not the carpet pile!) spring to mind!
  • beamerguy
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    We have seen similar before. Shame the SRA don't understand the ruling of the Beavis casem POFA and the courts own ruling about double recovery.
    Maybe they think the code of practice is a contract and is legal, well that's the feeble excuse the legals claim.

    The SRA are just a members club and are proving to the public they are NOT what they seem.

    Future complaints to the SRA about BWLegal musy include the facts
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 157,751 Forumite
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    To find the wording about why the Semark-Jullien case doesn't matter and was a damp squib for the BW Legal guys, read the example WITNESS STATEMENT in the NEWBIES thread, it covers it and explains it.  And you can copy that into your defence when the time comes.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • To find the wording about why the Semark-Jullien case doesn't matter and was a damp squib for the BW Legal guys, read the example WITNESS STATEMENT in the NEWBIES thread, it covers it and explains it.  And you can copy that into your defence when the time comes.
    But this had no effect with my Judge
  • Umkomaas
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    To find the wording about why the Semark-Jullien case doesn't matter and was a damp squib for the BW Legal guys, read the example WITNESS STATEMENT in the NEWBIES thread, it covers it and explains it.  And you can copy that into your defence when the time comes.
    But this had no effect with my Judge
    Judge bingo. Litigation carries risks. Judges rule in their own small claims court. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 157,751 Forumite
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    edited 13 October 2020 at 5:33PM
    To find the wording about why the Semark-Jullien case doesn't matter and was a damp squib for the BW Legal guys, read the example WITNESS STATEMENT in the NEWBIES thread, it covers it and explains it.  And you can copy that into your defence when the time comes.
    But this had no effect with my Judge
    Did you get a chance to point out that the Salisbury appeal wasn't about the added £60 (per se) and was only about whether a strike out was draconian? Did you read out that paragraph from your WS?  Some Judges don't read the WS, as I find quite a lot, so you have to say it.
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  • Yes I read and He stated he had read both WS, but I find that high unlikely, He was on the side of the Claimant all the way for some reason...
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 157,751 Forumite
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    Same experience as @robertcox999 for you and him.  I've just replied on his thread and suspect these are new Deputy DJs drafted in, who have quite possibly never heard a parking case before and lack the weekly experience of District Judges, who see these cases as the scam they are.

    I am so sorry that it happened to you after all your hard work, and as I said to that other poster, I don't think any of us could have won against a Judge who starts off clueless and against you, with the Beavis case in his head. 

    Judge Rinder did the same thing in an atrocious show trial on TV with a parking firm earlier this year.  Absolutely clueless.
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  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,592 Forumite
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    Judge bingo. Litigation carries risks. Judges rule in their own small claims court.

    Perhaps, but they are not unaccountable, read this

    https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/hm-courts-and-tribunals-service/about/complaints-procedure
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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