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Am I correct in thinking I can ignore this Demand from DRP?

Hi, 
I've read the NEWBIES Parking fines post several times, and just want to check I've understood things correctly, as there weren't any topics *exactly* like mine. 
I received a letter today from Debt Recovery Plus demanding payment for unpaid Parking Charge from 18/12/2019. This is the VERY FIRST notice I've had regarding the charge and was unaware of a "PCN" until now. I recall the day in question; the ticket machine was out of order and no one was able to pay for a ticket. There was no mobile/ app payment option. When we returned to the vehicle from a hospital appointment, there was no yellow parking fine or any indication that we would be issued with one at a later stage. For clarification, the parking area is behind a hospital, but not connected to it, and as far as I can tell, there is no signage to indicate WHO owns the land, although I'm sure its private, not council, in order to write and appeal the charge. Furthermore the "fine" is £130, for approximately 1.5 hours (max) worth of time, at (I think) £3.00 a day (or something like that  - I don't use the parking often)
Am I correct in thinking i can just ignore this correspondence? I don't know WHO to appeal to, and there is no option on the NEWBIES note regarding Demands for payments relating to charges arising from broken ticket machines. And yes, there is only one machine at the site - I do recall several other drivers looking for one on the day. 

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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    edited 24 March 2020 at 4:22PM
    as in post 4 of that newbies thread , you can completely and utterly ignore DRPL or Zenith collections etc, any debt collector should be ignored in these parking cases

    what you DO NOT IGNORE are :-

    a formal LBC giving 30 days notice and including financial forms

    and.or

    an MCOL court claim from the CCBC in Northampton

    name the parking company

    email a SAR to their DPO with a copy of your V5C to obtain all your docs , pics and data

    check that your V5C has your present and correct address on it, often pcn,s are sent to old addresses because vehilce keepers are numpties who dont update the address as they are required to do by law, hence paperwork goes to the wrong address

    any appeal is made to the parking company, who you did not mention

    broken machines are frustration of contract, discussed on here dozens of times
  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,590 Forumite
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    Nine times out of ten these tickets are scams, so consider complaining to your MP, it can cause the scammer extra costs and work, and has been known to get the charge cancelled.

    Parliament is well aware of the MO of these private parking companies, many of whom are former clampers, and on 15th March 2019 a Bill was enacted to curb the excesses of these shysters. Codes of Practice are being drawn up, an independent appeals service will be set up, and access to the DVLA's date base more rigorously policed, persistent offenders denied access to the DVLA database and unable to operate.

    Hopefully, when life gets back to normal, it will become impossible for those scammers who are left to continue their vile trade, but until this is done you should still complain to your MP, citing the new legislation.

    http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/8/contents/enacted

    Just as the clampers were finally closed down, so hopefully will many of these Private Parking Companies.



    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • KOls
    KOls Posts: 2 Newbie
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    As in post 4 of that newbies thread , you can completely and utterly ignore DRPL or Zenith collections etc, any debt collector should be ignored in these parking cases

    ** I couldn't actually SEE a "post 4" specifically, but guessed this is the summary of what I was seeing. Thanks. 

    check that your V5C has your present and correct address on it, often pcn,s are sent to old addresses because vehilce keepers are numpties who dont update the address as they are required to do by law, hence paperwork goes to the wrong address
    ** we did move house last year and all documents were sent off, but only recently (4 weeks ago) noticed that we never got our V5 back from DVLA! Contacted them and it's now been sorted and a new V5 was received just last week (7 months later)

    any appeal is made to the parking company, who you did not mention
    ** just had another look through the letter; would the Creditor be the parking company? It states the creditor as Euro Car Parks; guess I could appeal to them 

    broken machines are frustration of contract, discussed on here dozens of times
    ** I didn't think to search for broken machine threads, Tbh, just did as suggested and read the Newbies thread several times. 
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    This is post #4 in the NEWBIES thread:
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/64350614/#Comment_64350614

    Unfortunately the recent forum software upgrade has lost the post numbers. Hopefully they will return soon.
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    THE JOKE CALLED DRP
    TAKE NO NOTICE OF BRAIN DEAD DEBT COLLECTORS WITH NO POWER
    THEY COME FROM THE SEWERS, TREAT THEM AS THE LOW LIFE THEY ARE.
    NEVER CONTACT THEM ...... LET THE IDIOTS WASTE THEIR TIME
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5859454/debt-collectors-drp-zzps-what-they-dont-want-you-to-know/p1
  • Ralph-y
    Ralph-y Posts: 4,658 Forumite
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    edited 25 March 2020 at 12:21PM
    " It states the creditor as Euro Car Parks; guess I could appeal to them"

    you can try but they will prob not accept ... and will refuse the appeal any way.......


    as Redx   said above

    email a SAR to their DPO with a copy of your V5C to obtain all your docs , pics and data

    and tell them to erase your old address
    Hopefully we have helped you. Please now help our NHS heroes by signing this petition.

    https://www.change.org/p/boris-johnson-hospital-staff-shouldn-t-have-to-pay-onsite-parking?source_location=petitions_browse

    Ralph B)





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