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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 31 March 2020 at 10:29PM
    Unlike the other 'red bits' they don't need editing.  Decent question though!

    I put the headings 'APPENDIX A, B & C' in red, merely to make them stand out and to stop any possibility (I hope) of people missing the third one that needs separately attaching to the email.  If I had left it black, half the newbies reading it would not have attached Appendix C, in my experience of people and what they do with templates...especially when stressed.
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  • D_P_Dance
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    The claim is for £438.80 which is made up of original fines plus extras.

    They are not fines and the extras are unlawful , please report Gladstones to the SRA , they are well aware that these sums are not allowed,

    https://www.sra.org.uk/

    Have you complained to your MP yet, it is important that you do so.
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  • Nathanb
    Nathanb Posts: 37 Forumite
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    I have tried reading up on them but its hard when i dont understand what im reading. I dont even understand this defence that i have put together. I have tried my best to sort out whats what in my defence but its not easy when you dont even understand what to do. I cant actually believe that all this is legal basically praying on people that dont know what to do. 

    These are the two bits i have edited mainly however ill post my full defence in the post below.

    how do i send it through do i email it along using microsoft word that i have written it on?

    16. The Defendant is the main/only driver of this vehicle and but has no knowledge of any parking charge notice(‘PCN’) or letters. It is not established thus far, whether the car was parked, or just stopped momentarily and caught by predatory ticketing. It is not accepted that the location included prominent signs giving ‘adequate notice’ of the onerous parking charge. A compliant Notice to Keeper (‘NTK’) was not properly served in strict accordance with section 8 or 9 (as the case may be) of the POFA.

    17. As stated in the claim form the original incident took place on 24/09/2018 and 28/09/2018. The defendant received no notification of any fines and thus could not dispute any fines or penalty notices. The original incident allegedly place almost 18 months ago and would make it very hard for the defendant to remember where they parked on those dates thus making it hard to give a good fair defence.

    i will attach the appendices at the end as well.

  • Nathanb
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    1. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all. It is denied that the driver of the vehicle entered into any contractual agreement, whether express, implied, or by conduct, to pay a ‘parking charge’ to the Claimant.

    2. In relation to parking on private land, it is settled law from the Supreme Court, that a parking charge must be set at a level which includes recovery of the costs of operating a scheme. However, this Claimant is claiming a global sum of £438.80. This figure is a penalty, far exceeding the £85 parking charge in the ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis case.

    3. The global sum claimed is unconscionable and it was not shown in large lettering on any consumer signs, and it is averred that the charge offends against Schedule 2 of the Consumer Rights Act 2015 (‘the CRA’), where s71(2) creates a duty on the Court to consider the fairness of a consumer contract. The court’s attention is drawn (but not limited to) parts 6, 10, 14 and 18 of the list of terms that are likely to be unfair.

    4. Even if the Claimant had shown the global sum claimed in the largest font on clear and prominent signs-which is denied-they are attempting double recovery of costs. The sum exceeds the maximum amount which can be recovered from a registered keeper, as prescribed in Schedule 4, Section 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act2012 (‘the POFA’). It is worth noting that in the Beavis case where the driver was known, the Supreme Court considered and referred more than once to the POFA

    5. Claims pleaded on this basis by multiple parking firms have routinely been struck out ab initio in various County Court areas in England and Wales since 2019. Recent examples are appended to this defence; a February 2020 Order from District Judge Fay Wright, sitting at Skipton County Court(Appendix A) and a similar Order from Deputy District Judge Josephs, sitting at Warwick County Court(Appendix B).

    6. Applications by AOS member parking firms to try to reach the usually low threshold to set aside multiple strike-out orders have been reviewed by more than one area Circuit Judge, including His Honour Iain Hughes QC, occasioning District Judge Grand at Southampton to hear submissions from a barrister on 11thNovember 2019.The court refused to set aside the Orders and, tellingly, no appeal was made.

    7. The Judge found that the claims-both trying to claim £160, with some ten or more similar cases stayed-represented an abuse of process that ‘tainted’ each claim. It was held to be not in the public interest for a court to let such claims proceed and merely disallow £60 in a case-by-case basis, thus restricting and reserving the proper application of the relevant consumer rights legislation only for those relatively few consumers who reach hearing stage. That Judgment is appended(Appendix C).

    8. The CCBC and/or the allocated Court Judge is invited to read the Appendices at the earliest opportunity. The Defendant avers that parking firm claims which add a duplicitous ‘costs’ sum to the parking charge are now easily identified to be unlawful. Such claims are against the public interest, requiring no further assessment, and listing such cases for trial should be avoided. The Court is invited to exercise its case management powers pursuant to CPR 3.4 to strike out this claim, which is entirely tainted by abuse of process and breaches of the CRA.

    9. Should this claim continue, the Claimant will no doubt try to mislead the court by pointing to their Trade Association ‘ATA’ Code of Practice (‘CoP’) that now includes a hastily-added clause 'allowing' added costs/damages. The Defendant points out that the CoP is a self-serving document, written in the parking firms’ interests. Further, the ‘admin fee’ model was reportedly invented by a member of the British Parking Association Board, Gary Osner, whose previous firm, Roxburghe (UK) Limited, folded after being declared ‘unfit’ by the Office of Fair Trading who refused to renew their consumer credit licence due to ‘unfair and misleading’ business practices. Mr Osner states in an article that has been in the public domain since 2018:''I created the model of ‘admin fees’ for debt recovery because ticket value was so low that nobody would make any money. Parking is business and business is about money, after all.''

    10. The two competing ‘race to the bottom’ ATAs have engineered a veil of legitimacy to protect this industry for too long. They are not regulators and have failed consumers so badly, that Parliament is currently working on replacing them with a new CoP overseen by the Secretary of State, following the enactment of the Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019. Many courts have now recognised that a predatory parking firm Claimant using unfair and predatory business practices and inflating their claims with false ‘admin fees’, is not the ‘innocent party’ in a dispute. In stark contrast to the BPA Board member’s mindset, the will of Parliament as set out in the new 2019 Act is very much consumer-focussed, aiming for: ''good practice...in the operation or management of private parking facilities as appears to the Secretary of State to be desirable having regard to the interests of persons using such facilities.'

    11. In the alternative, the defence is prejudiced and the court is invited to note that, contrary to the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, the Letter Before Claim omitted evidence of any breach and failed to append the wording of the sign or consumer notice. Further, the Particulars of Claim are embarrassing and incoherent, lacking specificity re the location of the event and status of the contracting parties and failing to detail any conduct or liability that could give rise to a cause of action. There Is insufficient detail to ascertain the nature, basis and facts of the case but the sum claimed includes unrecoverable costs/damages and is clearly an abuse of process.

    12. The court is invited to note that the Beavis case would not have passed had it been pleaded in damages by ParkingEye, and the penalty rule applies to charges that are penal or unconscionable in their construction. The Supreme Court held at [14]‘‘where a contract contains an obligation on one party to perform an act, and also provides that, if he does not perform it, he will pay the other party a specified sum of money, the obligation to pay the specified sum is a secondary obligation which is capable of being a penalty. ’’And at[99]‘‘the penalty rule is plainly engaged.’’

    13. Unlike in this case, ParkingEye demonstrated a commercial justification for their £85parking charge which included all operational costs and was constructed in such away and offered on such ‘brief and clear’ signs with terms set in the interests of the landowner, that they were able to overcome the real possibility of the charge being struck out as penal and unrecoverable. The unintended consequence is that, rather than persuade courts considering other cases that all parking charges are automatically justified, the Beavis case facts and pleadings set a high bar that other claims fail to reach. Unusually for this industry, it is worth noting that ParkingEye do not add false ‘debt letter costs/damages’ to their parking charges and as a consequence, their own claims have escaped any reports of being summarily struck out.

    14. This Claimant has failed to plead their case, or to set out their terms or construct their contractual charges in the same way as in Beavis and the penalty rule remains firmly engaged. Paraphrasing from the Supreme Court, deterrence is likely to be penal if there is a lack of an overriding legitimate interest in performance extending beyond the prospect of compensation flowing directly from the alleged breach. The intention cannot be to punish drivers nor to present a motorist with concealed pitfalls or traps, nor to claim an unconscionable total sum.

    15. Should this poorly pleaded claim not be summarily struck out for any/all of the reasons stated above, the Defendant sets out this defence as clearly as possible in the circumstances, insofar as the facts below are known.

    16. The Defendant is the main/only driver of this vehicle and but has no knowledge of any parking charge notice(‘PCN’) or letters. It is not established thus far, whether the car was parked, or just stopped momentarily and caught by predatory ticketing. It is not accepted that the location included prominent signs giving ‘adequate notice’ of the onerous parking charge. A compliant Notice to Keeper (‘NTK’) was not properly served in strict accordance with section 8 or 9 (as the case may be) of the POFA.

    17. As stated in the claim form the original incident took place on 24/09/2018 and 28/09/2018. The defendant received no notification of any fines and thus could not dispute any fines or penalty notices. The original incident allegedly place almost 18 months ago and would make it very hard for the defendant to remember where they parked on those dates thus making it hard to give a good fair defence.

    18.The Claimant’s signs have vague/hidden terms and a mix of small font, such that they would be considered incapable of binding any person reading them under common contract law, and would also be considered void pursuant to Schedule 2 of the CRA. Consequently, it is the Defendant’s position that no contract to pay an onerous penalty was entered into with the Claimant, whether express, implied, or by conduct.

    19.The Beavis case is fully distinguished and a more relevant list of binding Court of Appeal authorities which are on all fours with a case involving unclear terms and a lack of ‘adequate notice’ of an onerous parking charge, would include: (i) Spurling v Bradshaw[1956] 1 WLR 461and (ii)Thornton v Shoe Lane ParkingLtd[1970] EWCA Civ 2, both leading examples of the ‘red hand’ rule-i.e. that an unseen/hidden clause cannot be incorporated after a contract has been concluded; and(iii)Vine v London Borough of Waltham Forest: CA 5 Apr 2000, where the Court of Appeal held that it was unsurprising that the appellant did not see the sign ''in view of the absence of any notice on the wall opposite the southern parking space''.

    20.Further and in the alternative, the Claimant is put to strict proof that it has sufficient proprietary interest in the land, or the necessary landowner authorisation to issue PCNs under these circumstances and to pursue keepers by means of civil litigation. It is not accepted that the Claimant has adhered to the landholder's definitions, exemptions, grace period, other terms (or instructions to cancel charges due to a surge of complaints) and there is no evidence that the freeholder authorises this particular Claimant (Companies House lists their company number as 09363453). Any purported landowner 'contract' which fails to properly identify the two contracting parties and/or which is in any way redacted (including the signatories, which in some parking claims have been revealed not to be that of the landowner) should be disregarded, along with any undated and/or unsubstantiated records, documents, boundary maps or aerial views, or photos which are capable of manipulation.

    21.For any or all of the reasons stated above, the Court is invited to dismiss this claim.

    22.In the matter of costs. If the claim is not struck out, the Defendant seeks:

    (a) standard witness costs for attendance at Court, pursuant to CPR 27.14, and

    (b) the Court to reserve, assess and award the Defendant’s Summary Costs Assessment, to be filed and served at Witness Statement stage in anticipation of a typical late Notice of Discontinuance (‘NoD’) from this Claimant.

    23.At NoD stage, or at a hearing if the case proceeds that far, the Court will be taken to facts to support a finding of wholly unreasonable conduct by this Claimant. Pursuant to CPR 46.5, whilst indemnity costs cannot exceed two thirds of the applicable rate if using legal representation, the Defendant notes that LiP costs are not necessarily capped at £19 ph. The Defendant will ask for a fairly assessed rate for the hours spent on this case, referencing Spencer & anor v Paul Jones Financial Services Ltd.

    24.In summary, the Claimant's Particulars disclose no legal basis for the sum claimed. This Claimant knew, or should have known, that an exaggerated ‘parking charge ’claim where the alleged ‘debt’ exceeds the £100 ATA CoP ceiling is disallowed under the CPRs, the Beavis case, the POFA and the CRA, The Judge in the instant case is taken to the Appendices, demonstrating that several court areas continue to summarily strike out private parking cases that include an extravagant and unlawful costs sum.


  • Redx
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    edited 3 April 2020 at 10:24PM
    the defence will be mailed as a pdf attachment , but it needs to be signed , so in most cases we state to print it , SIGN IT , scan back to pc , save as a pdf for attaching to your email (so this method is an actual signature on paper)

    the alternative is sign a white piece of paper using black ink , scan it or take a picture , add it to your saved defence and save as a pdf , not docx , then attch it to the email to the CCBC (so this one is called a DIGITAL SIGNATURE , google it )

    in a lot og legal matters you pay a lawyer to come to your rescue , which you can do if you wish here in this case, but it will be very , very expensive , hence why most people do the D I Y route, but nobody is forcing you to D I Y so feel free to pay a lawyer hundreds of pounds, or do it yourself , even if you dont know what you are doing ( a judge would not expect you to be expert in this matter, which is why they are )
  • KeithP
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    edited 2 April 2020 at 7:53PM
    Nathanb said:

    how do i send it through do i email it along using microsoft word that i have written it on?

    I had hoped my earlier post explained that.

    Particularly this bit:
    To file a Defence, follow the guidance in this post:
  • Nathanb
    Nathanb Posts: 37 Forumite
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    some of you on here could offer to do it for £50 a time haha way cheaper than the fine and you lot sound like you could have a defence put together in 10 mins as im guessing there the same after youve had a few different ones. Ill be filing my defence tomorow thanks for all your help. Ill also write to my MP regarding it but i cant imagine that will go far especially with what is going on now. 
    I have also been told to report gladstone solicitors to the SRA but ive been unable to find where on there website to report another solicitor that isnt my own.
  • 1505grandad
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    "However, this Claimant is claiming a global sum of £438.80"

    Check the amount on the claim form - not sure that global figure is correct.
  • Redx
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    edited 3 April 2020 at 10:29PM
    Nathanb said:
    1) Ill also write to my MP regarding it but i cant imagine that will go far especially with what is going on now.

    2) I have also been told to report gladstone solicitors to the SRA but ive been unable to find where on there website to report another solicitor that isnt my own.

    1) the MP,s in parliament approved the Parking Cop bill 12 months ago when the Queen approved it , yet there is still no government CoP by the MHCLG (Robert Jenrick,s department) - that is what you are complaining about , the lack of action over a new law

    2) the SRA already have a number of complaints about Gladrags and the details for complaining have been posted numerous times in this forum in other threads

    I suggest you do a lot more reading and research, because its all here if you search for any topic, there are no new topics , just S.S.D.D.

  • D_P_Dance
    D_P_Dance Posts: 11,591 Forumite
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    I have also been told to report gladstone solicitors to the SRA but ive been unable to find where on there website to report 

    Are you serious?  Just write to their office, I am sure that they are capable of passing it to the correct deck..  
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
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