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  • poppellerant
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    50Twuncle said:
    She has only worked there for around 9 months and has no underlying health issues but is just extremely worried that customers may have !!

    She works with  few dozen colleagues
    With all due respect, but she shouldn't have chosen a job that involves interacting face-to-face with customers.  Does she walk about the streets worrying about what everybody might have?
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    edited 20 March 2020 at 9:54AM
    50Twuncle said:
    She has only worked there for around 9 months and has no underlying health issues but is just extremely worried that customers may have !!

    She works with  few dozen colleagues
    Has she offered to "self isolate" without pay or isn't she that worried? Its unlikely hardy perennials will be stockpiled so the remaining staff should be able to cope with the reduced customer numbers.
  • 50Twuncle
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    She is only 22 and will  be on extremely low pay as it is...
  • 50Twuncle
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    50Twuncle said:
    She has only worked there for around 9 months and has no underlying health issues but is just extremely worried that customers may have !!

    She works with  few dozen colleagues
    With all due respect, but she shouldn't have chosen a job that involves interacting face-to-face with customers.  Does she walk about the streets worrying about what everybody might have?
    She wasn't to know the future was she ?
  • poppellerant
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    50Twuncle said:
    50Twuncle said:
    She has only worked there for around 9 months and has no underlying health issues but is just extremely worried that customers may have !!

    She works with  few dozen colleagues
    With all due respect, but she shouldn't have chosen a job that involves interacting face-to-face with customers.  Does she walk about the streets worrying about what everybody might have?
    She wasn't to know the future was she ?
    Your said she was "extremely worried that customers may have".  If she was so worried about what other people might have,she should never have taken the job in the first place. 
    On another note, if she is young then surely she has absolutely nothing to worry about, unless she has some underlying health condition that hasn't been revealed.
  • 50Twuncle
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    50Twuncle said:
    50Twuncle said:
    She has only worked there for around 9 months and has no underlying health issues but is just extremely worried that customers may have !!

    She works with  few dozen colleagues
    With all due respect, but she shouldn't have chosen a job that involves interacting face-to-face with customers.  Does she walk about the streets worrying about what everybody might have?
    She wasn't to know the future was she ?
    Your said she was "extremely worried that customers may have".  If she was so worried about what other people might have,she should never have taken the job in the first place. 
    On another note, if she is young then surely she has absolutely nothing to worry about, unless she has some underlying health condition that hasn't been revealed.

    50Twuncle said:
    50Twuncle said:
    She has only worked there for around 9 months and has no underlying health issues but is just extremely worried that customers may have !!

    She works with  few dozen colleagues
    With all due respect, but she shouldn't have chosen a job that involves interacting face-to-face with customers.  Does she walk about the streets worrying about what everybody might have?
    She wasn't to know the future was she ?
    Your said she was "extremely worried that customers may have".  If she was so worried about what other people might have,she should never have taken the job in the first place. 
    On another note, if she is young then surely she has absolutely nothing to worry about, unless she has some underlying health condition that hasn't been revealed.

    When she started the job - last summer - she was not to know (who was) of the current problems - if she had known. she would most likely not have taken the job.
    When I said "....Customers may have...." - I meant CV !
    As far as I am aware - she is fit and well - so hopefully, if she sticks with the job - she will be OK.

  • 50Twuncle said:
    She has only worked there for around 9 months and has no underlying health issues but is just extremely worried that customers may have !!

    She works with  few dozen colleagues
    In which case, subject only to the possible protection outlined by Daniel Godfrey above, she can be dismissed simply by being given a week's notice.

    Even if those criteria do apply a defended tribunal claim would take many many months to resolve. Even if she were to win, given the current situation, will the business still be solvent by then and able to pay any compensation? Further, what will she do for income in the meantime?
    OP: this is the correct position. On any employment law issue, if you have less than 2 years' service then you are in a precarious position whatever the issue is. It's understandable that your niece feels anxious in the current climate in a customer-facing role. I personally think a lot of London-based employers would struggle to deal with staff who sought to avert contracting the illness when placed in a customer-facing role given the increased rate of exposure in the capital, but I can also see a lot of uncertainty with employers leading to knee-jerk reactions and putting people in the position of having to take a case to an employment tribunal. 

    Ultimately your niece has to make a judgement call - go to work whilst risking possible exposure, or don't go to work and risk a dismissal that may lead to a tenuous legal claim much further down the line. It's a decision that a lot of people are going to have to make. 
    Daniel Godfrey - Employment Law Caseworker
    Camden Community Law Centre
    (Currently helping with advice on coronavirus issues - any guidance here is given on an informal pro-bono basis)
  • mwarby
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    Aren't the none food shops not being asked to close now anyway ?
  • 50Twuncle
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    She may be covered by the government promise to pay wages - although it's going to break the country - there's no option
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