Corona-virus - How worried are you?

pickledonionspaceraider

Well over the weekend two cases in my town have been identified.
I am going to stop watching the news. 
I never would have thought of that @MoneySeeker1 - about the card transaction.  They should not have need to touch it anyway.  I think some people just don't realise- I never thought of it 

I am going to stop reading the news as much as possible. As it is freaking me out.
My online shopping arrived with no problems this weekend. The only thing they didn't have was paracetamol.

Pollycat

I've no idea why sales assistants feel it's their job to

MoneySeeker1 said:

One thing I've noticed is that I'm going to have to be aware of how other people "should" be doing their jobs, as well as my own part in any transaction. Paying rather more by card than cash at the moment - and the other person in the transaction has gone and grasped hold of my card to hand it back to me (even when I'd made a semi-jokey comment to start with of "Better pay by card, rather than cash, with the news right now". Errr....hellooo....wakey....wakey...I said that for a reason. One can't remove all possibilities of people handing something to one with dirty hands - but they don't even seem to be thinking about how to do their jobs more "cautiously". One evening out and one telling-off of a cashier that went to take my card out of the machine for me, when I was obviously the one to take it out, followed by me holding my ticket up carefully for the person that monitors them and they proceed to take it out of my hand (as per their should-be-former practice). It's little bits of things like that that make me despair about just how bright (or, more likely, otherwise) many members of the human race are (or not!). I swear most people go through life with their brains half-asleep....

Though the stupidest one to date was the checkout assistant in supermarket that kept coughing into her hands and then used those hands to pass my goods to me (errr...hello...hadn't she read the "cough into elbows or a handkerchief" info?).

I think you're being a bit unfair by expecting a (probably very busy) sales assistant to read your mind and leave you to remove your card.

I'd have removed it myself.

Or been very clear that I didn't want the SA to touch it.

I always remove my own card as soon as the transaction is confirmed OK anyway, my hand hovers over the machine in readiness.

I prefer to pay contactless, most of my shopping is under £30.00. OH does the big shop.

pickledonionspaceraider said:

Well over the weekend two cases in my town have been identified.
I am going to stop watching the news. 
I never would have thought of that @MoneySeeker1 - about the card transaction.  They should not have need to touch it anyway.  I think some people just don't realise- I never thought of it 

I am going to stop reading the news as much as possible. As it is freaking me out.
My online shopping arrived with no problems this weekend. The only thing they didn't have was paracetamol.

Not watching or reading the news isn't going to make it go away.

The 3 people who've died all had underlying health conditions.

The latest and youngest was in his 60s, the eldest was 83.

I don't know your health or age.

I'm mid 60s and am not particularly worried.

Apparently, we have 4 cases in my county, specific location is not stated.

Dymphna60

Why is other diseases kill people reassuring ? This is an easily transmissible virus that kills people on top of all the other diseases that kill people. 

I don’t think it’s at all unreasonable to have concerns. 

Are the nah I am not bothered people the ones I see on the bus coughing sneezing on their hands or into others faces ? What ever you have I don’t want it . 

Nor do I find its only the over 60s and those with underlying health conditions that will die . Are you sure ? Do you have that information on the thousands already dead ? Anyway not particularly reassuring for me that group is me and everybody I care about most including my adult children who have medical conditions but are active working people . They are worried . 

Pollycat

Dymphna60 said:

Why is other diseases kill people reassuring ? This is an easily transmissible virus that kills people on top of all the other diseases that kill people. 

I don’t think it’s at all unreasonable to have concerns. 

Are the nah I am not bothered people the ones I see on the bus coughing sneezing on their hands or into others faces ? What ever you have I don’t want it . 

Nor do I find its only the over 60s and those with underlying health conditions that will die . Are you sure ? Do you have that information on the thousands already dead ? Anyway not particularly reassuring for me that group is me and everybody I care about most including my adult children who have medical conditions but are active working people . They are worried . 

I didn't say 'other diseases kill people reassuring'.

I'm not disputing that this is a very serious virus.

I can understand that people do have concerns.

I just don't see the point of deliberately not watching or reading the media.

I don't see the point of running round like Chicken Licken crying 'the sky's going to fall'.

It's a fact that worrying about contracting coronavirus will not make any difference to whether you do or don't get it.

I prefer not to worry about things I can't control. It's part of who I am.

Other people are at liberty to worry about whatever they wish.

I'm taking precautions.

But if I get it, I get it.

I don't do 'coughing sneezing' on my hands or into others faces. I never have.

I didn't say it is only the over 60s and those with underlying health conditions that will die.

I stated that of the 3 deaths so far in the UK all were over 60 and all had reported underlying health issues. That is a fact.

I do not have any information on the thousands already dead. I didn't mention them.

I regret that you didn't find my post reassuring. It wasn't meant to be reassuring.

pickledonionspaceraider

Pollycat said:

I just don't see the point of deliberately not watching or reading the media.

It's a fact that worrying about contracting coronavirus will not make any difference to whether you do or don't get it.

I prefer not to worry about things I can't control. It's part of who I am.

I think you have answered your own question there @polly@Pollycat

Pollycat

pickledonionspaceraider said:

Pollycat said:

I just don't see the point of deliberately not watching or reading the media.

It's a fact that worrying about contracting coronavirus will not make any difference to whether you do or don't get it.

I prefer not to worry about things I can't control. It's part of who I am.

I think you have answered your own question there @polly@Pollycat

Was it a question?

pickledonionspaceraider

They are not testing everyone who presents to the NHS with symptoms

If you ring 111 with flu like symptoms, you get told to stay at home.  Asked a few questions about if they have been abroad. If they haven't been abroad or in contact (knowingly) with someone with COVID19... then they are left to it. 
 That is not to say that the person standing behind you in the que in the supermarket coughing, hadn't unknowingly got it. 

They don't know numbers - as many are not getting tested.  They only seem to be testing on the ones they think are a pretty much a certainty

MoneySeeker1

Re contactless cards - all very well if one has them. I've read about their security angles and so deliberately don't have one. I do have my hand nearby ready to grab my card back and/or visibly waiting for the machine to be turned back in my direction again ready for me to do so. But so many people go round totally "oblivious" it seems.

I have been obviously over-estimating some other peoples intelligence though and/or their general knowledge of the news and I do make that mistake quite often I'm afraid, as I do think of these things and so take it as read that others will as well. I do read the news and take it as read that others will as well. Thinks...must remember all those 60-something women that apparently never read the Government was going to go for their State Pension age and raise it up and, apparently, spent years in ignorance of the fact (something I find extremely difficult to believe that apparently 50% of people bury their heads in the sand to this extent, as I knew the very next day, ie when I read the papers and started swearing visibly at the Government years before it affected me personally) and so was well aware (even though I'd never been told and do agree that we should have been).

pickledonionspaceraider

Well there.. I hope you gave yourself a pat on the back @MoneySeeker1 !
There is a lot to be said for the old adage 'ignorance is bliss' - Ignorance is not the same as Intelligence, well -lack thereof.
Ignorance can be a choice.
A very nice relaxed choice.  Sometimes, it is intelligent to not go looking for problems.
You go looking, you are always going to find something within the pages of the media that we are spoon fed

The pension thing though, I am not sure that was handled or publicised very well at all. Mysterious messages hidden within monopoly board advertisements that didn't even mention women. The whole thing is diabolical. People plan for retirement decades in advance and to be tripped like that is nothing short of disgusting. It is sexist 

Pollycat

pickledonionspaceraider said:

Well there.. I hope you gave yourself a pat on the back @MoneySeeker1 !
There is a lot to be said for the old adage 'ignorance is bliss' - Ignorance is not the same as Intelligence, well -lack thereof.
Ignorance can be a choice.
A very nice relaxed choice.  Sometimes, it is intelligent to not go looking for problems.
You go looking, you are always going to find something within the pages of the media that we are spoon fed

The pension thing though, I am not sure that was handled or publicised very well at all. Mysterious messages hidden within monopoly board advertisements that didn't even mention women. The whole thing is diabolical. People plan for retirement decades in advance and to be tripped like that is nothing short of disgusting. It is sexist 

And it wasn't sexist for women to receive their state pension 5 years before a man born on the same date?

The WASPI and Backto60 issue has been discussed widely - mainly on the Pensions board and DT.