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  • vacheron
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    My DC pension is down £28K over the last 6 weeks, and that includes the £2200 I paid in this month! However, as I'm 46 and at least 11 years from retirement I'm really not bothered. Just keep buying through and (hopefully) out the other side. 

    If you're a couple of years from retirement though you may have a right to be slightly more concerned.
    • The rich buy assets.
    • The poor only have expenses.
    • The middle class buy liabilities they think are assets.
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  • cfw1994
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    vacheron said:
    My DC pension is down £28K over the last 6 weeks, and that includes the £2200 I paid in this month! However, as I'm 46 and at least 11 years from retirement I'm really not bothered. Just keep buying through and (hopefully) out the other side. 

    If you're a couple of years from retirement though you may have a right to be slightly more concerned.
    Question is more about what % is it down.  
    Peak for mine was Feb 21st.   Currently down 4.8% against that, but actually up 1% from the start of Jan....
    Plan for tomorrow, enjoy today!
  • Thrugelmir
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    vacheron said:
    My DC pension is down £28K over the last 6 weeks, and that includes the £2200 I paid in this month! However, as I'm 46 and at least 11 years from retirement I'm really not bothered. Just keep buying through and (hopefully) out the other side. 

    If you're a couple of years from retirement though you may have a right to be slightly more concerned.
    In 11 years time you could be facing another "event".  Until "events" occur many people rarely consider their appetite for risk seriously. Or the wisdom of their investment choices. 
  • Actually, events like this happen, on average, once a year. That is assuming it stays as a correction 
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    edited 4 March 2020 at 7:03PM
    cfw1994 said:
    vacheron said:
    My DC pension is down £28K over the last 6 weeks, and that includes the £2200 I paid in this month! However, as I'm 46 and at least 11 years from retirement I'm really not bothered. Just keep buying through and (hopefully) out the other side. 

    If you're a couple of years from retirement though you may have a right to be slightly more concerned.
    Question is more about what % is it down.  
    Peak for mine was Feb 21st.   Currently down 4.8% against that, but actually up 1% from the start of Jan....
    What is your asset allocation? What are you reporting? Money weighted return? Or are you reporting large contributions in January? 
  • Actually, events like this happen, on average, once a year. That is assuming it stays as a correction 
    So it's a regular correction of an overheated market, not the risk of the global economy being shafted by a pandemic?


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  • Thrugelmir
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    Actually, events like this happen, on average, once a year. That is assuming it stays as a correction 
    So it's a regular correction of an overheated market, not the risk of the global economy being shafted by a pandemic?


    That's the nature of markets. Growth comes to a halt when a major event occurs. Whether it be war, a financial crisis, health issue or simply investors driving share levels to unachievable earnings ratings. Ultimately markets reflect the actions of millions of individual investors. The direction of the herd moves the price. 
  • cfw1994
    cfw1994 Posts: 2,127 Forumite
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    cfw1994 said:
    vacheron said:
    My DC pension is down £28K over the last 6 weeks, and that includes the £2200 I paid in this month! However, as I'm 46 and at least 11 years from retirement I'm really not bothered. Just keep buying through and (hopefully) out the other side. 

    If you're a couple of years from retirement though you may have a right to be slightly more concerned.
    Question is more about what % is it down.  
    Peak for mine was Feb 21st.   Currently down 4.8% against that, but actually up 1% from the start of Jan....
    What is your asset allocation? What are you reporting? Money weighted return? Or are you reporting large contributions in January? 
    Mine?  Not entirely sure I understand what you are asking, sorry: I added one small amount (< 0.3%) in Jan, but essentially I am reflecting 'the entire pot' (haven't broken down the daily differences in the funds - probably should!)
    Think I have posted fuller detail a few times, but briefly, my main 'pot' (all with Aviva) consists of this:
    • 20% Pre-retirement Fixed Interest
    • 15% BlackRock Over 15 Year Corporate Bond Index Tracker
    • 15% BlackRock Over 15 Year Gilt Index Tracker
    • 25% BlackRock World ex UK Equity Index Tracker
    • 25% North American
    Two rising days this week now: up 2.5% since start of Jan, now down 3.5% since the peak on 21st Feb.
    That help?
    Don't get me wrong - I am not in ANY way claiming to be an expert in this field, certainly not an IFA/FA, & I suspect we will see more challenging times in the weeks ahead, but I remain optimistic this isn't the end of the world as we know it.  If I felt that, I'd be investing in canned food, bottled water and razorwire for our home 
    :D 
    Plan for tomorrow, enjoy today!
  • cfw1994 said:
    cfw1994 said:
    vacheron said:
    My DC pension is down £28K over the last 6 weeks, and that includes the £2200 I paid in this month! However, as I'm 46 and at least 11 years from retirement I'm really not bothered. Just keep buying through and (hopefully) out the other side. 

    If you're a couple of years from retirement though you may have a right to be slightly more concerned.
    Question is more about what % is it down.  
    Peak for mine was Feb 21st.   Currently down 4.8% against that, but actually up 1% from the start of Jan....
    What is your asset allocation? What are you reporting? Money weighted return? Or are you reporting large contributions in January? 
    Mine?  Not entirely sure I understand what you are asking, sorry: I added one small amount (< 0.3%) in Jan, but essentially I am reflecting 'the entire pot' (haven't broken down the daily differences in the funds - probably should!)
    Think I have posted fuller detail a few times, but briefly, my main 'pot' (all with Aviva) consists of this:
    • 20% Pre-retirement Fixed Interest
    • 15% BlackRock Over 15 Year Corporate Bond Index Tracker
    • 15% BlackRock Over 15 Year Gilt Index Tracker
    • 25% BlackRock World ex UK Equity Index Tracker
    • 25% North American
    Two rising days this week now: up 2.5% since start of Jan, now down 3.5% since the peak on 21st Feb.
    That help?
    Don't get me wrong - I am not in ANY way claiming to be an expert in this field, certainly not an IFA/FA, & I suspect we will see more challenging times in the weeks ahead, but I remain optimistic this isn't the end of the world as we know it.  If I felt that, I'd be investing in canned food, bottled water and razorwire for our home  :D 
    Makes sense. I am down 2.5% year to date. You are up 1%. That’s because you have a balanced portfolio (50/50) and I have an aggressive one (80/20; was 90/10 in 2019).  Interesting you exclude UK from your stock allocation (I don’t). You also have much longer average duration for your bonds, which benefits you more when rates drop. 
  • Sailtheworld
    Sailtheworld Posts: 1,551 Forumite
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    vacheron said:
    My DC pension is down £28K over the last 6 weeks, and that includes the £2200 I paid in this month! However, as I'm 46 and at least 11 years from retirement I'm really not bothered. Just keep buying through and (hopefully) out the other side. 

    If you're a couple of years from retirement though you may have a right to be slightly more concerned.
    In 11 years time you could be facing another "event".  Until "events" occur many people rarely consider their appetite for risk seriously. Or the wisdom of their investment choices. 
    Pretty pointless having a portfolio built to suit the risk appetite of your future self 11 years hence.

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