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aaj123 said:
Let me see them trying this out. Their online application form had an explicit question on whether you have an existing relationship with Saffron BS and I answered No. Despite that if they approve my application and open an account for me, they are gonna have a tough time backing off. I look forward to such a situation and see how they respond if I say that I will complain to the FCA. I feel like it simply isn't worth the trouble for them to be pushy here.ForumUser7 said:
IIRC they can, and have done before for some people who opened a members RS and small saver at the same time. I.e. You have violated their terms and conditions by opening the account, and agreeing to the product literature which state it is for members who have had an existing relationship with Saffron Building Society for the past 12 months, even though you've had no such relationship. This means they can terminate the account at any time they so chose.aaj123 said:
I doubt they can back away after having sent me a clear email with account number and the product name and after I have now even funded the account. Sure, they might tinker with their validations and prevent this happening for future applications.littlemoney said:aaj123 said:
Can't login as details will be sent in post but I have an email that commences saying 'Great news! Your Members Regular Saver is open'. And the subject line mentions account number.ForumUser7 said:
Is it showing on the online platform for you yet? IIRC, you can apply, then a human reviews and processesaaj123 said:
Well, I have just tried this out and I can confirm they opened a Members Regular Saver for me despite me not having any existing relationship with them.aaj123 said:
Are they enforcing the condition that only existing members can apply for this?Every_Penny_Counts said:
Also the new Saffron RS is variable at last, so no more having to arrange a change of issue for each rate change in the future.ForumUser7 said:Sorry - completely forgot to say -Saffron BS Member Regular Saver (Issue 12) will be 4.35%
The very first page after clicking apply doesn't seem to list this as one of the conditions although their product description page did.
Btw the application had one rather strange question about what the intended initial deposit amount is and mentioned that this must be between 50 to 6500. Obviously at odds with the product being applied for so I just said £500.Sorry to inform you but Saffron BS are enforcing the existing member rule for the Member Regular Saver but not the Small Saver.I phoned Saffron BS this morning to move my existing regular saver to the higher rate and mentioned that it appeared to be open to all when applying online. Opening an account online deos not appear to have the validation built in to enforce existing members only but this will be picked up later in the account opening processing stage.
Worth a try, but if they pick up on it which they likely will, it'll be closed. Hopefully they give you the option to change into the account type you're eligible for
If they want to close your account for not meeting their T&C, they are allowed to under their T&C.
It includes:We may close your account immediately and without notice in exceptional circumstances. These might include:You would get nowhere with the FCA/Ombudsman.
Where you were not entitled to open the account.9 -
Regardless of whether you can or can't have Saffron RS 11 & 12 together, the Q is why would you want to keep 11 at a paltry 3% ? Anyone with their eye on the ball would have emptied (bar £50) 11 a good few weeks ago and stopped funding it.
Advised that they have been bombarded with requests and to expect it to take 3days, however they told me the same at the past 2 switch overs and both were done within the hour.
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From that sort of language it appears there's only one pushy party here - and it's not Saffron.aaj123 said:Let me see them trying this out. Their online application form had an explicit question on whether you have an existing relationship with Saffron BS and I answered No. Despite that if they approve my application and open an account for me, they are gonna have a tough time backing off. I look forward to such a situation and see how they respond if I say that I will complain to the FCA. I feel like it simply isn't worth the trouble for them to be pushy here.6 -
I opened a Saffron RS whilst not an existing member. The account opened OK and I put money in. Only a few days later they said I couldn't have one and refunded the deposit.7
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Not as straightforward at all like you make it out. That clause is generally meant to cover instances where an applicant's information is found to be incorrect and NOT so much of where you gave all accurate info and got an account approved and open.gt94sss2 said:aaj123 said:
Let me see them trying this out. Their online application form had an explicit question on whether you have an existing relationship with Saffron BS and I answered No. Despite that if they approve my application and open an account for me, they are gonna have a tough time backing off. I look forward to such a situation and see how they respond if I say that I will complain to the FCA. I feel like it simply isn't worth the trouble for them to be pushy here.ForumUser7 said:
IIRC they can, and have done before for some people who opened a members RS and small saver at the same time. I.e. You have violated their terms and conditions by opening the account, and agreeing to the product literature which state it is for members who have had an existing relationship with Saffron Building Society for the past 12 months, even though you've had no such relationship. This means they can terminate the account at any time they so chose.aaj123 said:
I doubt they can back away after having sent me a clear email with account number and the product name and after I have now even funded the account. Sure, they might tinker with their validations and prevent this happening for future applications.littlemoney said:aaj123 said:
Can't login as details will be sent in post but I have an email that commences saying 'Great news! Your Members Regular Saver is open'. And the subject line mentions account number.ForumUser7 said:
Is it showing on the online platform for you yet? IIRC, you can apply, then a human reviews and processesaaj123 said:
Well, I have just tried this out and I can confirm they opened a Members Regular Saver for me despite me not having any existing relationship with them.aaj123 said:
Are they enforcing the condition that only existing members can apply for this?Every_Penny_Counts said:
Also the new Saffron RS is variable at last, so no more having to arrange a change of issue for each rate change in the future.ForumUser7 said:Sorry - completely forgot to say -Saffron BS Member Regular Saver (Issue 12) will be 4.35%
The very first page after clicking apply doesn't seem to list this as one of the conditions although their product description page did.
Btw the application had one rather strange question about what the intended initial deposit amount is and mentioned that this must be between 50 to 6500. Obviously at odds with the product being applied for so I just said £500.Sorry to inform you but Saffron BS are enforcing the existing member rule for the Member Regular Saver but not the Small Saver.I phoned Saffron BS this morning to move my existing regular saver to the higher rate and mentioned that it appeared to be open to all when applying online. Opening an account online deos not appear to have the validation built in to enforce existing members only but this will be picked up later in the account opening processing stage.
Worth a try, but if they pick up on it which they likely will, it'll be closed. Hopefully they give you the option to change into the account type you're eligible for
If they want to close your account for not meeting their T&C, they are allowed to under their T&C.
It includes:We may close your account immediately and without notice in exceptional circumstances. These might include:You would get nowhere with the FCA/Ombudsman.
Where you were not entitled to open the account.0 -
Sure, I am pushy but I push only when I get pushed. That's the difference. Has served me very well a number of times.Patrington said:
From that sort of language it appears there's only one pushy party here - and it's not Saffron.aaj123 said:Let me see them trying this out. Their online application form had an explicit question on whether you have an existing relationship with Saffron BS and I answered No. Despite that if they approve my application and open an account for me, they are gonna have a tough time backing off. I look forward to such a situation and see how they respond if I say that I will complain to the FCA. I feel like it simply isn't worth the trouble for them to be pushy here.0 -
No, eligibility is clearly set out as a different exceptional reason for account closure than providing incorrect informationaaj123 said:
Not as straightforward at all like you make it out. That clause is generally meant to cover instances where an applicant's information is found to be incorrect and NOT so much of where you gave all accurate info and got an account approved and open.gt94sss2 said:aaj123 said:
Let me see them trying this out. Their online application form had an explicit question on whether you have an existing relationship with Saffron BS and I answered No. Despite that if they approve my application and open an account for me, they are gonna have a tough time backing off. I look forward to such a situation and see how they respond if I say that I will complain to the FCA. I feel like it simply isn't worth the trouble for them to be pushy here.ForumUser7 said:
IIRC they can, and have done before for some people who opened a members RS and small saver at the same time. I.e. You have violated their terms and conditions by opening the account, and agreeing to the product literature which state it is for members who have had an existing relationship with Saffron Building Society for the past 12 months, even though you've had no such relationship. This means they can terminate the account at any time they so chose.aaj123 said:
I doubt they can back away after having sent me a clear email with account number and the product name and after I have now even funded the account. Sure, they might tinker with their validations and prevent this happening for future applications.littlemoney said:aaj123 said:
Can't login as details will be sent in post but I have an email that commences saying 'Great news! Your Members Regular Saver is open'. And the subject line mentions account number.ForumUser7 said:
Is it showing on the online platform for you yet? IIRC, you can apply, then a human reviews and processesaaj123 said:
Well, I have just tried this out and I can confirm they opened a Members Regular Saver for me despite me not having any existing relationship with them.aaj123 said:
Are they enforcing the condition that only existing members can apply for this?Every_Penny_Counts said:
Also the new Saffron RS is variable at last, so no more having to arrange a change of issue for each rate change in the future.ForumUser7 said:Sorry - completely forgot to say -Saffron BS Member Regular Saver (Issue 12) will be 4.35%
The very first page after clicking apply doesn't seem to list this as one of the conditions although their product description page did.
Btw the application had one rather strange question about what the intended initial deposit amount is and mentioned that this must be between 50 to 6500. Obviously at odds with the product being applied for so I just said £500.Sorry to inform you but Saffron BS are enforcing the existing member rule for the Member Regular Saver but not the Small Saver.I phoned Saffron BS this morning to move my existing regular saver to the higher rate and mentioned that it appeared to be open to all when applying online. Opening an account online deos not appear to have the validation built in to enforce existing members only but this will be picked up later in the account opening processing stage.
Worth a try, but if they pick up on it which they likely will, it'll be closed. Hopefully they give you the option to change into the account type you're eligible for
If they want to close your account for not meeting their T&C, they are allowed to under their T&C.
It includes:We may close your account immediately and without notice in exceptional circumstances. These might include:You would get nowhere with the FCA/Ombudsman.
Where you were not entitled to open the account.10.7. We may close your account immediately and without notice in exceptional circumstances. These might include:
• We are legally required to close the account.
• Upon notification that you no longer permanently reside in the UK.
• You have deliberately given us any false information in relation to your account which resulted in us doing something that, had we known the true facts, we would not have done, or would have done differently (for example, if you gave us false information as part of your application for the account, and we would not have accepted your application if we had known the true facts).
• Where you were not entitled to open the account.
• We receive notice of your bankruptcy or (in the case of accounts with only one account holder) your death.
• Where we believe (or we reasonably suspect) you or someone else is using the account for illegal or fraudulent activity.
• You have committed a serious breach of these terms and conditions or have repeatedly breached the terms and conditions.
• You have been threatening or abusive towards our staff.
• You haven’t provided us with information we have requested
about your identity or liability for tax.
• Where we are obliged to do so by law, regulation, court order or the instructions of an ombudsman.
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Previously, over the years, I was able to send a secure message to enable the switch to the new higher interest rate Saffron RS. However, today, got the "unable to complete request" message when sending the secure message. No wonder they are busy on the phone!
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Sometimes I find that you'll get that message if there are characters in the message that it doesn't like, i.e., a bracket.where_are_we said:Previously, over the years, I was able to send a secure message to enable the switch to the new higher interest rate Saffron RS. However, today, got the "unable to complete request" message when sending the secure message. No wonder they are busy on the phone!3 -
Fine. You are being pedantic here and in all of this, you are missing the obvious that there is no downside for me, the applicant. I either get to keep the account, or i don't get to or I have a bit of to and fro and then get the account with some compensation for the trouble. What's not to like?gt94sss2 said:
No, eligibility is clearly set out as a different exceptional reason for account closure than providing incorrect informationaaj123 said:
Not as straightforward at all like you make it out. That clause is generally meant to cover instances where an applicant's information is found to be incorrect and NOT so much of where you gave all accurate info and got an account approved and open.gt94sss2 said:aaj123 said:
Let me see them trying this out. Their online application form had an explicit question on whether you have an existing relationship with Saffron BS and I answered No. Despite that if they approve my application and open an account for me, they are gonna have a tough time backing off. I look forward to such a situation and see how they respond if I say that I will complain to the FCA. I feel like it simply isn't worth the trouble for them to be pushy here.ForumUser7 said:
IIRC they can, and have done before for some people who opened a members RS and small saver at the same time. I.e. You have violated their terms and conditions by opening the account, and agreeing to the product literature which state it is for members who have had an existing relationship with Saffron Building Society for the past 12 months, even though you've had no such relationship. This means they can terminate the account at any time they so chose.aaj123 said:
I doubt they can back away after having sent me a clear email with account number and the product name and after I have now even funded the account. Sure, they might tinker with their validations and prevent this happening for future applications.littlemoney said:aaj123 said:
Can't login as details will be sent in post but I have an email that commences saying 'Great news! Your Members Regular Saver is open'. And the subject line mentions account number.ForumUser7 said:
Is it showing on the online platform for you yet? IIRC, you can apply, then a human reviews and processesaaj123 said:
Well, I have just tried this out and I can confirm they opened a Members Regular Saver for me despite me not having any existing relationship with them.aaj123 said:
Are they enforcing the condition that only existing members can apply for this?Every_Penny_Counts said:
Also the new Saffron RS is variable at last, so no more having to arrange a change of issue for each rate change in the future.ForumUser7 said:Sorry - completely forgot to say -Saffron BS Member Regular Saver (Issue 12) will be 4.35%
The very first page after clicking apply doesn't seem to list this as one of the conditions although their product description page did.
Btw the application had one rather strange question about what the intended initial deposit amount is and mentioned that this must be between 50 to 6500. Obviously at odds with the product being applied for so I just said £500.Sorry to inform you but Saffron BS are enforcing the existing member rule for the Member Regular Saver but not the Small Saver.I phoned Saffron BS this morning to move my existing regular saver to the higher rate and mentioned that it appeared to be open to all when applying online. Opening an account online deos not appear to have the validation built in to enforce existing members only but this will be picked up later in the account opening processing stage.
Worth a try, but if they pick up on it which they likely will, it'll be closed. Hopefully they give you the option to change into the account type you're eligible for
If they want to close your account for not meeting their T&C, they are allowed to under their T&C.
It includes:We may close your account immediately and without notice in exceptional circumstances. These might include:You would get nowhere with the FCA/Ombudsman.
Where you were not entitled to open the account.10.7. We may close your account immediately and without notice in exceptional circumstances. These might include:
• We are legally required to close the account.
• Upon notification that you no longer permanently reside in the UK.
• You have deliberately given us any false information in relation to your account which resulted in us doing something that, had we known the true facts, we would not have done, or would have done differently (for example, if you gave us false information as part of your application for the account, and we would not have accepted your application if we had known the true facts).
• Where you were not entitled to open the account.
• We receive notice of your bankruptcy or (in the case of accounts with only one account holder) your death.
• Where we believe (or we reasonably suspect) you or someone else is using the account for illegal or fraudulent activity.
• You have committed a serious breach of these terms and conditions or have repeatedly breached the terms and conditions.
• You have been threatening or abusive towards our staff.
• You haven’t provided us with information we have requested
about your identity or liability for tax.
• Where we are obliged to do so by law, regulation, court order or the instructions of an ombudsman.
I gather you are aware that not enforcing advertised eligibility conditions is not unusual? Many apply for and get regular savers with banks after closing an earlier one before term end and this despite eligibility conditions saying that you can only apply for an RS once in 12 months. Another example - BoS right now allows opening their monthly saver even if you have no current account with them (contrary to what their stated eligibility condition says).0
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