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ADVICE NEEDED - Can I fight this PCN from Civil Enforcement Ltd!?

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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    Both , but because they are closed nothing is certain at the moment , even breathing or staying healthy is uncertain

    Hence why I clearly stated that you should email both while you can do so , that is what I would do and I never tell others to do something unless I would do it myself
  • Sandy9090
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    Redx said:
    Both , but because they are closed nothing is certain at the moment , even breathing or staying healthy is uncertain

    Hence why I clearly stated that you should email both while you can do so , that is what I would do and I never tell others to do something unless I would do it myself
    Thanks for the advice Redx. I have found the DQ online and will submit this along with my defence via email, then wait to hear back.
  • Redx
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    Don't forget to send a copy of your DQ to the claimant too , not just the CCBC

    I would email the claimant with the DQ and also post one with a free certificate of posting from the post office

    If you think you only send one to the CCBC then you are not studying post #2  of the Newbies thread nor the advice by KeithP
  • Sandy9090
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    I have also found a 3-page write up about unclear signage (I think it was written by Coupon) expanding on the point about unclear signage. Does anyone think I need to add anything to my defence under items 17 or 18 about this point?

    Also, any further feedback on my amendments to item 16 would be appreciated.
    Thanks all!
  • Sandy9090
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    Redx said:
    Don't forget to send a copy of your DQ to the claimant too , not just the CCBC

    I would email the claimant with the DQ and also post one with a free certificate of posting from the post office

    If you think you only send one to the CCBC then you are not studying post #2  of the Newbies thread nor the advice by KeithP
    Thanks for the reminder, I have re-read my notes about the DQ (as this was my next step after submitting the defence to be honest, now being combined) and can see it must be sent to the CCBC and the claimant.
  • KeithP
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    I personally would send your Defence first, by email attachment of course, and then send your completed DQ to the CCBC as an attachment to a separate email.

    In my mind I can see a risk in one of the items being missed otherwise.
    You will also have the benefit of two auto-receipts - indicating that two documents had been received by the CCBC.
  • Redx
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    I agree with KeithP, keep it simple , 2 separate emails , the second (the DQ) can be CC to the claimants email

    2 auto receipts obtained, one task per email
  • Coupon-mad
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    Why would anything about signs need to be added, given the template more than covers that point just under the red sections in the middle?

    I am concerned that the CCBC is closed and whether these emails will be picked up. 
     Bargepole is currently putting shorter defences in on MCOL instead, just till this crisis is over.
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  • Le_Kirk
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    Why would anything about signs need to be added, given the template more than covers that point just under the red sections in the middle?
    I am concerned that the CCBC is closed and whether these emails will be picked up. 
     Bargepole is currently putting shorter defences in on MCOL instead, just till this crisis is over.
    I expect that the CCBC servers will continue to "accept" e-mail until such time as any limit set is exceeded and then senders will start to get undeliverable reports.
  • Sandy9090
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    Why would anything about signs need to be added, given the template more than covers that point just under the red sections in the middle?

    I am concerned that the CCBC is closed and whether these emails will be picked up. 
     Bargepole is currently putting shorter defences in on MCOL instead, just till this crisis is over.
    I suppose your response answers the question - I only asked because I found the additional text about signage and wondered if this needs to be included anywhere, or if it was written for another purpose?

    I'll try to email my defence and DQ to CCBC and keep an eye on any receipt received, otherwise will try and submit via MCOL. Do you how the DQ can be submitted other than via email?
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