The Nice People No. 17

Jazee

I also have an email telling me I've won a prize on the lottery.  I haven't checked as I like to keep the anticipation that it might be a big win going as long as I can.  I might even leave it for DH to check.  I'm a winner today anyway, lovely gifts from my children.

Pyxis

Jazee said:

I also have an email telling me I've won a prize on the lottery.  I haven't checked as I like to keep the anticipation that it might be a big win going as long as I can.  I might even leave it for DH to check.  I'm a winner today anyway, lovely gifts from my children.

I used to say to myself, being  a fully signed-up, card-carrying  Eeyore, that my Premium Bond would win the big one on the day before Armageddon.

Cakeguts

GDB2222 said:

I’m sorry to hear that. What brings on the vertigo? Do you get it all the time, or just when looking down from a height? 

It is an inner ear balance problem.  I get it from time to time.  At least at the moment the earth isn't moving with it.

Cakeguts

I can tell that this is going to be major Glagolitic Mass day. The anxiety and depression are trying to be bad today but the SSRIs are holding it off so that I can control the rest. (I hope) 

Pyxis

Cakeguts said:

I can tell that this is going to be major Glagolitic Mass day. The anxiety and depression are trying to be bad today but the SSRIs are holding it off so that I can control the rest. (I hope) 

Sorry, Cakeguts.😕

Cakeguts

Pyxis said:

Cakeguts said:

I can tell that this is going to be major Glagolitic Mass day. The anxiety and depression are trying to be bad today but the SSRIs are holding it off so that I can control the rest. (I hope) 

Sorry, Cakeguts.😕

Its alright I like Glagolitic Mass. I am also playing the oboe so it isn't all bad just a lot of music therapy today.  I think my brain probably thinks in sound. 

Playing music for mental illness therapy is my "thing" anyway.

GDB2222

ukcarper said:

GDB2222 said:

ukcarper said:

GDB2222 said:

Neither of the kids will need an ICU bed. Kids are very good at spreading the virus to parents and grandma though.

Death rate for 10-19 year olds is 0.2%, 2 in a thousand approx 2 in normal comp school. OK not everybody is going to get it so probably lower but still high enough to think about.

The death rates quoted are for people who are diagnosed. Most kids are non-symptomatic, so they are not diagnosed. There’s a strong relationship by age both as to whether you are likely to show any significant symptoms and, if you do, whether you are likely to get pneumonia.  

There’s a report on this here https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-case-children-infants-low-disease-expert-explain-why-2020-2

fatality rates are estimated and are pretty basic, I believe the ones I'm quoting (from worldmeters) are from cases in Wuhan and 0.2 children 10 to 19 years who have been tested have died, no one under 10 has died. But as I said figures are probably lower as not everybody will get it or have been test come to that and I still believe that it shouldn't be ignored completely. 

What you have said is how I understand it, except that I interpret it a bit differently.

The Wuhan data was from the 55000 people who were tested, but only people who were severely ill got tested. So, I agree that the Chinese data shows 2 per thousand 10-19 year olds dying, or two per comprehensive school as you put it. BUT, that's only amongst those who got ill enough in the first place to get tested in Wuhan. If in that age group only 1 in 100 gets that ill, say, then the number of deaths in that age group goes down to 2 per 100 comprehensive schools. 

I think that youngsters have some innate idea that they are bulletproof, anyway, but in this particular case they probably have a point. Not that the thought of youngsters (or anyone) dying in this way is good, but I think it goes some way to explaining why that age group are so relaxed about it. 

Cakeguts

Isn't there a virus discussion place somewhere, where you can do this? 

Cakeguts

Um toad in the hole?

ukcarper

GDB2222 said:

ukcarper said:

GDB2222 said:

ukcarper said:

GDB2222 said:

Neither of the kids will need an ICU bed. Kids are very good at spreading the virus to parents and grandma though.

Death rate for 10-19 year olds is 0.2%, 2 in a thousand approx 2 in normal comp school. OK not everybody is going to get it so probably lower but still high enough to think about.

The death rates quoted are for people who are diagnosed. Most kids are non-symptomatic, so they are not diagnosed. There’s a strong relationship by age both as to whether you are likely to show any significant symptoms and, if you do, whether you are likely to get pneumonia.  

There’s a report on this here https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-case-children-infants-low-disease-expert-explain-why-2020-2

fatality rates are estimated and are pretty basic, I believe the ones I'm quoting (from worldmeters) are from cases in Wuhan and 0.2 children 10 to 19 years who have been tested have died, no one under 10 has died. But as I said figures are probably lower as not everybody will get it or have been test come to that and I still believe that it shouldn't be ignored completely. 

What you have said is how I understand it, except that I interpret it a bit differently.

The Wuhan data was from the 55000 people who were tested, but only people who were severely ill got tested. So, I agree that the Chinese data shows 2 per thousand 10-19 year olds dying, or two per comprehensive school as you put it. BUT, that's only amongst those who got ill enough in the first place to get tested in Wuhan. If in that age group only 1 in 100 gets that ill, say, then the number of deaths in that age group goes down to 2 per 100 comprehensive schools. 

I think that youngsters have some innate idea that they are bulletproof, anyway, but in this particular case they probably have a point. Not that the thought of youngsters (or anyone) dying in this way is good, but I think it goes some way to explaining why that age group are so relaxed about it. 

I agree the risk to children is thankfully very small and I wouldn't expect children to worry, it's their parents responsibility to ensure they are adhering to social distancing rules, if not for their own sake but everybody else's.  The present advice from government might well be enough to slow advance of virus if people follow it religiously but they are not and most likely will not and we most likely will soon be in total lock down.  Still need a break from this so I going to try and finish our puzzle.