MIF grace period between jobs?

The-Joker

What if somebody is getting pressure to earn the minimum income floor and they finally achieve it, then they lose their job,

What are the requirements for the 1 year grace where you don’t get pressured to earn the MIF?

How long do you have to have been earning the MIF to get the grace period again?

Spoonie_Turtle

The-Joker wrote: »

What if somebody is getting pressure to earn the minimum income floor and they finally achieve it, then they lose their job,

What are the requirements for the 1 year grace where you don’t get pressured to earn the MIF?

How long do you have to have been earning the MIF to get the grace period again?

I don't understand. The MIF is for self-employment :huh:

The-Joker

Spoonie_Turtle wrote: »

I don't understand. The MIF is for self-employment :huh:

I’m not talking about self employed

I’m talking about a couple working but still not earning the MIF

They finilly reach the MIF for a little while then one loses job

Have they got a year grace again

What are the times needed?

calcotti

The MIF only applies to people who are self employed so if you are not talking about the self employed there is nothing to say about the MIF.

huckster

Think they mean the CET ( conditonality earnings threshold). If they earn enough during a qualifying period, a grace period is calculated, where the benefit cap is not applied.

So question is about benefit cap grace period i think.

If not, then I have no clue what they are asking about.

calcotti

If the question is about the benefit cap then they might wish to read this
https://www.gov.uk/benefit-cap/when-youre-not-affected
Or
https://revenuebenefits.org.uk/universal-credit/guidance/entitlement-to-uc/benefit-cap/#How%20does%20it%20work%20with%20Universal%20Credit?

AG47

calcotti wrote: »

The MIF only applies to people who are self employed so if you are not talking about the self employed there is nothing to say about the MIF.

Are you sure the MIF only applies to self employment?

What if both in the couple only have part time jobs?

AG47

So you are not affected by the benefit cap if you get Universal Credit and you and your partner earn more than £569 a month combined, after tax and National Insurance contributions.

But you are expected to try to earn more?

My question is are you pressured to earn the minimum income floor?

If neither of you do get up to the MIF then what will happen? And how long have you got?

calcotti

AG47 wrote: »

Are you sure the MIF only applies to self employment?

What if both in the couple only have part time jobs?

Yes I am sure. If people are employed the MIF does not apply, it only applies to self employed people. As huckster says OP may be mixing up the MIF and the CET.

https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/Self-employment-and-minimum-income-floor-Universal-Credit

http://data.parliament.uk/DepositedPapers/Files/DEP2019-0980/2._Administrative_and_Conditionality_Earnings_Thresholds_v3.0.pdf

AG47

calcotti wrote: »

Yes I am sure. If people are employed the MIF does not apply, it only applies to self employed people. As huckster says OP may be mixing up the MIF and the CET.

https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/Self-employment-and-minimum-income-floor-Universal-Credit

http://data.parliament.uk/DepositedPapers/Files/DEP2018-0759/CC_-_Earnings_Thresholds_v1.0.pdf

Thanks so what if a couple is only working part time jobs a few days a week between them just enough to make the benefit cap not apply, IE working 16 hours a week at the national living wage – which is £569.22 a month currently ((£8.21 x 16 x 52) / 12)?

There is no pressure to earn more like the MIF?

calcotti

AG47 wrote: »

So you are not affected by the benefit cap if you get Universal Credit and you and your partner earn more than £569 a month combined, after tax and National Insurance contributions.

But you are expected to try to earn more?

My question is are you pressured to earn the minimum income floor?

If neither of you do get up to the MIF then what will happen? And how long have you got?

You are mixing up MIF and earnings thresholds.

The MIF is an amount that self employed people are assumed to earn if they actually earn less.

Earnings thresholds affect your UC requirements. See http://data.parliament.uk/DepositedPapers/Files/DEP2019-0980/2._Administrative_and_Conditionality_Earnings_Thresholds_v3.0.pdf

http://data.parliament.uk/DepositedPapers/Files/DEP2019-0980/157._Work_related_activities_and_the_Labour_Market_regimes_v6.0.pdf