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  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 24 January at 5:59PM
    bobster2 said:
    Toilet right by the shower. Eww.

    It looks like they converted the fireplace in the kitchen into a stove hood, that's a good idea.
    Ok, humour me.  What is wrong with a toilet right by a shower.  Isn't that the norm in most small bathrooms? Do I need to re-model my house to ensure I move from the 'Eww' position to 'acceptable' position?
    Thank you - when I read that comment my first thought was that presumably the poster was someone who'd always been fortunate enough to live in large houses with massive bathrooms! Ours literally only has space for the bath, toilet and washbasin all right next to one another, and it would have been impractical to switch the positions of the toilet and basic when we rebuilt it. Thankfully, I have the ability to maintain a clean toilet so I'm not too concerned by the "eww" factor! No remodelling required here! 
    In other countries the just divide the room with a thin wall  takes minimal space.
    You're really into having lots of tiny rooms aren't you?

    In every country where I've relieved and washed myself it's been pretty standard to have the shower and toilet in the same room. It's actually quite practical being able to move from loo to shower in certain circumstances!
    If by "lots" you mean 2, then yes.
  • [Deleted User]
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    edited 24 January at 5:59PM
    Toilet right by the shower. Eww.

    It looks like they converted the fireplace in the kitchen into a stove hood, that's a good idea.
    Ok, humour me.  What is wrong with a toilet right by a shower.  Isn't that the norm in most small bathrooms? Do I need to re-model my house to ensure I move from the 'Eww' position to 'acceptable' position?
    Thank you - when I read that comment my first thought was that presumably the poster was someone who'd always been fortunate enough to live in large houses with massive bathrooms! Ours literally only has space for the bath, toilet and washbasin all right next to one another, and it would have been impractical to switch the positions of the toilet and basic when we rebuilt it. Thankfully, I have the ability to maintain a clean toilet so I'm not too concerned by the "eww" factor! No remodelling required here! 
    In other countries the just divide the room with a thin wall  takes minimal space.
    That minimal space, in our flat, would be the difference between having a whole  doorway to walk through, or half a one… I can assure you that the latter option would lead to a far greater hygiene issue as MrEH probably wouldn’t be able to access the loo at all! 🤣
    It's not that thick... Then again British houses are tiny.
    Sigh. OK - the entry into my bathroom is a doorway (unsurprisingly). That doorway is between two sections of wall. On one side - another room. On the other, the airing cupboard which houses the cold water tank, cylinder and mains pressure pump - so not *really* anything we can do without. The only way I could create a further doorway into the bathroom would be either to knock through from the room next door, or to knock through from the kitchen - in itself, not generally considered hygienic (and would also leave us without space for either a bath or even a shower). Therefore, in order for my bathroom to be "acceptable" to you, the only place the wall could go would be in the middle of that doorway - you follow? It's alright though - I don't give a flying doodah what your opinion is of my - and many many millions of others with similar bathroom setups - sanitary arrangements - and thankfully the replies here go to show that judgement of such things is a thankfully rare occurrence! 

    I get that some people have been fortunate to have grown up and always lived in spacious residences, and simply don't understand that others don't have that privilege - but that they can STILL continue in these views even after numerous people have patiently explained to them that not everyone lives in an ivory tower is downright worrying! :lol: 

    Perhaps the issue here is judgement of the state of "most peoples" toilets against your own? Maybe you need to get the cleaner in an extra day a week, or perhaps pay her an extra quid or two, if things are that grim? I mean don't get me wrong, I wouldn't eat my dinner off mine, but it's generally speaking pretty clean and decent as both of us were brought up with good standards in such areas! 

    Yes yes, we know, your house is badly laid out and too small. So are most British houses. That's not the point.

    Take Japan as an example. Okay, houses there are significantly larger than the UK on average, but if you look at small inner city apartments they somehow manage to have a separate toilet and bath/shower room. I guess the normal laws of 3 dimensional space don't apply there, but somehow they managed to fit them in.

    FWIW my toilet is in the bathroom too, just not right by the shower door, i.e. not in the area you immediately step out of the shower, bare foot, into. As for keeping it clean, if you have children there is only so much you can do.
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    Some have speculated that there was a planning requirement in place that lead to this, but it seems unlikely to me.
  • Dandie89
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    rigolith said:

    Yes yes, we know, your house is badly laid out and too small. So are most British houses. That's not the point.

    Take Japan as an example. Okay, houses there are significantly larger than the UK on average, but if you look at small inner city apartments they somehow manage to have a separate toilet and bath/shower room. I guess the normal laws of 3 dimensional space don't apply there, but somehow they managed to fit them in.

    FWIW my toilet is in the bathroom too, just not right by the shower door, i.e. not in the area you immediately step out of the shower, bare foot, into. As for keeping it clean, if you have children there is only so much you can do.
    You have no idea of hygiene or infection control. Size of room, extra walls are of no relevence, all you have to do, and we should have all learnt this well in the last couple of years, is wash your hands thoroughly after using the toilet.  Unless your feet are going to be in contact with eating surfaces or your face I shouldn't be too worried about the miniscule risk of stepping out of the shower into something.  I can't be bothered to say anymore, it's obviously your hobby house so you look out for whatever eases your mind and leave the rest to enjoy our homes just as we have them.
  • Skiddaw1
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    Back on topic then... anyone want a decking area nearly as big as the house? 

    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/126757418#/?channel=RES_BUY

    Reminds me of a house we looked at. The decking area was both vast and painted gun-metal grey. It was like being on the HMS Belfast.
  • Slinky
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    Back on topic then... anyone want a decking area nearly as big as the house? 

    https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/126757418#/?channel=RES_BUY

    There's a separate toilet for Rigolith in that one.........

    The house reminds me of Location, Location where I'm sure they showed somebody one that looked like the one to the left of the one being sold here, with the tiny frontage. I wonder if it's the same one.
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  • SadieO
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    edited 17 February 2023 at 11:09AM
    This isn't the worst house I've seen on here (although it's not great, and for some reason has a kitchen sink in the little bedroom) but the price is... ambitious shall we say! York is not the cheapest place to live but if you want a 3 bed semi and can afford £300-350k there's plenty of nice ones in that range, you don't have to buy this dump doer-upper! Just a couple of doors down on the same street for just £15k more you can have this nice one - I'm sure you'd spend more than £15k getting the first one up to the same standard. And actually the second one has been up for sale since Oct so you might even be able to get it for a lower offer. I totally understand the appeal of a doer-upper but surely part of it is that you get it at a lower price to take into account the work needed??
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